teedubbya
7 years ago
They have perhaps the largest emerging market and to lose it would be a disaster. Agriculture alone is worth keeping their market open for us. Others will fill the void.

That’s not to say we shouldn’t do anything, it’s just to say discount their markets at your own peril. Be thoughtful not ham handed.

I’m also not sure the EU is willing to play ball on Trumps terms at the moment.
teedubbya
7 years ago
^ another reason it’s not a bad idea to even the playing field now rather than later.
delta1
7 years ago
picking up on abrignac's observations about tools/machinery products:


Solid once great American tool and machinery corporations with manufacturing and production plants in China: Black and Decker, Briggs and Stratton, Caterpiller, Craftsman Tools, Cummins, DeWalt, Fisher Scientific, John Deere, Home Depot, Lowes, Stanley, Toro, True Value, Grainger...


are we making it easy for China to steal our trade secrets, patents, and production methods?
dstieger
7 years ago
if only we had access to super cheap labor that we could avoid paying minimum wages and payroll taxes on....lemme think on this...there might be a way
delta1
7 years ago
you mean over-turn the outcome of the Civil War?
victor809
7 years ago
I'm amazed that people think the impact of a trade war is on the goods coming in.

That's simply not right.
Abrignac
7 years ago

picking up on abrignac's observations about tools/machinery products:


Solid once great American tool and machinery corporations with manufacturing and production plants in China: Black and Decker, Briggs and Stratton, Caterpiller, Craftsman Tools, Cummins, DeWalt, Fisher Scientific, John Deere, Home Depot, Lowes, Stanley, Toro, True Value, Grainger...


are we making it easy for China to steal our trade secrets, patents, and production methods?

delta1 wrote:



Not making easy for them. All they have to do is determine what intellectual property they want to bring to marke, take it apart and analyze it components and build appropriate for, etc to make the parts, assemble the patented parts and ship it to harbor freight or some other willing distributers. For products that can’t be disassembled they can simply obtain a copy of the patent form the patent office. Same result.
Abrignac
7 years ago
I’m wondering though if there isn’t a better way to shut down theft of intellectual property. Why don’t companies simply use the justice department to shut down the importation of said products much like say Gucci handbags and criminally charge distributers Not, that it would be a 💯 % solution but, I’m sure it would go a long way to l leveling the playing field.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
I'll admit I started this thread as an attempt to get some steam behind a petition to have victors citizenship revoked while he's out of the country - possibly tried for treason - but it's gotten way off track...
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