frankj1
7 years ago

Is there some other kind of pen out there I don't know about. ..:-k

RMAN4443 wrote:


pig pen
teedubbya
7 years ago
The most underrated member of the dead.
frankj1
7 years ago

The most underrated dead member of the Dead.

teedubbya wrote:


more better...
delta1
7 years ago

If there's even just ONE clinic that performs abortions up to birth, then abortions up to birth are a thing.

It's just too bad that the clinics don't demand the women to complete a survey so we can satisfy JadeRose's need to know.

tailgater wrote:



I am also opposed to late term abortions, especially in cases where the fetus would be healthy and survive outside the womb. But in almost all cases where post-viability abortions occur, there are exigent circumstances, such as fetal abnormality or mother health issues, where I believe it is a legitimate call for the woman and her doctor, and her loved ones to make. I don't believe it is a decision for me, for the state, or for a small minority of activists to dictate, one-way or the other.

I've not reviewed why some abortion doctors who performed late term abortions were charged, found guilty and imprisoned...did they perform near birth abortions where the fetus was viable...I do understand that the procedure is very complicated and takes 3-4 days to perform.
delta1
7 years ago
tailgater
7 years ago

I used to enjoy debating with tail because I do value differing opinion when presented logically. That’s how I learn and my mind can be changed on things. There was a time when tail was one of the folks I could count on for this. I’m still open for that but it’s been severely lacking for awhile. I’m not sure what happened.

When the debate starts with things like don’t be such a main stream media driven troll, or mistating someone’s view in order to argue with that, or is continually moving off point and declaring victory, or claiming lack of comprehension is a liberal thing etc., there really isn’t anything of substance to learn from or even respect.... which is a tough one for me because I want to respect differing opinions and embrace the fence post. Throwing out prefab drivel into the subject of the day doesn’t really do much and certainly doesn’t “win”. It’s actually quite weak for such a strong posture. It may make for cool T-shirt’s or hats though.

Something has changed here. Maybe it’s me but there has been an evolution that is less than flattering. Maybe that’s just life.

It’s my opinion, I could be wrong, and I have no issue if Tail lashes back at me. I’ve been thinking it for awhile and chose to put it out there. I deserve what I get and can take it. I just miss what was once intelligent debate.

I’d still smoke one with ya tail, and enjoy it. I think this medium can bring out the worst in folks without them even realizing it.

teedubbya wrote:



I'd be interested to know which views I've "misstated" in this thread.

As for the over use of calling the anti-trump crowd a victim of the MSM? Guilty.
But that's on purpose.
And it's mostly true.

Mass hysteria might explain some of the "Collusion-I-mean-Obstruction" chants. But mostly it's MSM and the same social media platform that they claim stole the election.

100 million people don't all turn left at the same place at the same time.
They KNEW it was Collusion between Trump and Russia. The knew it so much that they formed an investigation. They claimed they'd believe the report. And when the report exonerated him for the collusion, they said it was never about Russia.
If you're not laughing at this by now then you're not paying attention.

People get bent out of shape because I call them liberals. but in the meantime, liberals call conservative racist. Not for what they do or even what they say. But for how they vote.
Then I'm the one being chastised for name calling.
Which is fine. I just don't understand the hypocrisy. It's like saying "I hate it when people f*cking use foul language".

TW, you don't have to apologize for posting what you did.
If (when?) I go off track I WANT you to call me out.
If I swing back it just means it's an interesting discussion, or we're bored, or we've been drinking. Or that you're simply wrong and I want to show you how to be right.
I'm a giver.

But I'll back off a bit with the liberal bashing if it's going to result in less banter.
That's the opposite effect I was aiming for.
Although I can't say I'm surprised, considering how sensitive the liberals are...





teedubbya
7 years ago
I don't care if you bash liberals. They have always been a little kooky to me and I can't defend most of their thoughts. I just was trying (maybe not well) to describe when I start taking folks thoughts less seriously. In fairness maybe that is the intent at times. It's not as if I am always serious or even most times.

Meh.


By the way did anyone else think of Frank when reading this headline

California man impaled by tripod on California freeway
tailgater
7 years ago
Seriously?

🇨🇮

DrafterX
7 years ago
He prefers Shirley... 😟
delta1
7 years ago
dude was a veteran, too...perp who threw the tripod wasn't Frank...


borndead1
7 years ago
As long as we live under a representative system of government, abortion will never be 100% legal or 100% illegal. Never. It will NEVER happen. To fight for either of those scenarios is futile. The hardcore pros and antis need to get that through their thick skulls. So realistically, the only way forward is compromise. A few states passed 20 week limits. I think that's a fair compromise.

P.S. 90% of the people on both sides who rant and rave about Roe v. Wade have never even read the majority opinion of that court decision. It's actually a pretty 'moderate' decision, as liberal vs. conservative arguments go.
izonfire
7 years ago
I’m actually in favor of post-natal abortion for a good portion of society, but perhaps I’m interrupting...
victor809
7 years ago
I've never understood how anyone who believes in an omniscient and omnipotent god can be against abortions.

If you believe in predetermination, which you have to if you believe in an omniscient and omnipotent god... Then infants are not any more innocent than the adults they will become, you just don't know which is which yet... And if an omniscient and omnipotent god wants that kid aborted, then maybe they're planning ahead.
DrafterX
7 years ago
But it's an unforgivable sin to commit suicide.. do you think it was God's plan to send the suicide peoples to hell from the beginning..?? 😕
victor809
7 years ago
Yes.

If he's truly omnipotent and omniscient then it was.
DrafterX
7 years ago
That doesn't sound very nice of him.. 😟
dstieger
7 years ago
Or her?

No fury like....and all that?
tailgater
7 years ago
Can one be omniscient if they don't know what that word means?

teedubbya
7 years ago
we all have free Will although Drafter does take donations
DrafterX
7 years ago
I could sure use a couple cupcakes about now.. 😟
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