Buckwheat
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:30:18 PM
If the Muller report fully exonerates Trump why did he just invoke executive privilege to suppress the release of the full unredacted report?

Something doesn't add up.

One would think he would want the world to see how innocent he is of any and all wrong doing. 🌫

dstieger
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:54:16 PM
Maybe it has nothing to do with substance and everything to do with politics.....just like the dems' demands.

NYT today :

"the Supreme Court has said there must be a link between the information and a legitimate task of Congress, like weighing whether a new law is needed. Lawmakers cannot use their subpoena power and expose private affairs simply to aggrandize investigators or punish a target."

victor809
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 1:05:21 PM
While that quote is correct dstieg... looks a little out of context. The quote apparently applies to questioning people testifying to congress.... (it was from a trial where someone was held in violation for not answering "are you a member of the communist party")... that may not really apply in regards to congress's request for existing reports.
teedubbya
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 1:11:08 PM
All I know is if the President decides an investigation into themselves is bogus because they dont think they did anything wrong they can shut it down (per Barr). If the Prez decides congress doesn't really need to provide oversight or look in to something the Prez can decide to not comply and shut it down.

These are just facts and I'd apply them no matter which person is in office because I'm neutral and not just rooting for a team.

Buckwheat
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 1:29:58 PM

All I know is if the President decides an investigation into themselves is bogus because they dont think they did anything wrong they can shut it down (per Barr). If the Prez decides congress doesn't really need to provide oversight or look in to something the Prez can decide to not comply and shut it down.

These are just facts and I'd apply them no matter which person is in office because I'm neutral and not just rooting for a team.

teedubbya wrote:

It's not the President's decision on Congressional oversight. If it were then there wouldn't be any oversight. I'll agree that Congressional Oversight is not one of the enumerated powers under the Constitution. However, it is a key component of our long standing doctrine of the Separation of Powers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_oversight 

No doubt this whole thing is political and in line with the Republican tactics during Clinton's impeachment. 🍺

teedubbya
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 1:34:37 PM
Sarcasm
delta1
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 1:39:16 PM
Barr's interpretation, then, negates the Constitutional authority providing for Checks and Balances of the executive branch, opening the door for an authoritarian POTUS, something that the Founding Fathers specifically wanted to avoid. The power to impeach members of the executive branch is the Congressional check, and should be used to counter an executive who abuses his power.

If the Dems in Congress are intent to expose wrong doing, high crimes and misdemeanors, and abuses of power by POTUS, the AG or any other member of the executive branch, they should initiate impeachment proceedings and settle any executive refusals to cooperate in court. Trump is daring them to do that, knowing that the Senate will not remove him from office. He is hoping to play the political game of deny and delay to turn public opinion in his favor, and solidify his chances to win re-election.

Given the political climate that Trump has created, where facts don't matter, it is entirely possible that all the damning evidence of his misconduct, stated clearly in the Mueller Report, will not register with enough voters to vote him out of office. McConnell has sent a loud signal that the evidence in the Mueller Report is inconsequential as far as the GOP is concerned.

dstieger
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 1:40:34 PM

Sarcasm

teedubbya wrote:

Is wasted on many.... literally
ZRX1200
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 4:30:08 PM
I’m just here for the consistent comments.....

So now we’re encouraging breaking the law?

Speyside
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 4:43:31 PM
True, true. We elected Trump.
teedubbya
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 4:45:20 PM
Who is encouraging that? I'm not following. (Edit... never mind, I get it. Its the Sarah Sanders line of logic)

But yes... WWRHD

What would rob halford do

teedubbya
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 4:50:48 PM
delta1
Wednesday, May 8, 2019 6:35:45 PM
good licks...haven't heard that in a while...
izonfire
Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:24:43 AM

Who is encouraging that? I'm not following. (Edit... never mind, I get it. Its the Sarah Sanders line of logic)

But yes... WWRHD

What would rob halford do

teedubbya wrote:

Probably bang a dude

teedubbya
Tuesday, May 21, 2019 7:17:22 PM
If we keep going this direction that will be breakin the law.
Abrignac
Tuesday, May 21, 2019 7:44:32 PM
It appears that the Trump administration may want to force a SCOTUS showdown regarding the absence of any stipulated power granted by the Constitution to the legislative branch to investigate except impeachment. His reasoning may be that because he’s not facing impeachment proceedings then harassment is the DEM’s reason to subpoena his tax records. Suppose the SCOTUS rules in his favor then the DEM’s would have to duck their tails between their legs or risk potential embarrassment and negative voter sentiment should the impeachment proceedings turn out to be a big nothing burger.
teedubbya
Tuesday, May 21, 2019 8:24:24 PM
Or they could be building a stronger case every time a subpoena is ignored. Who knows.

I think they will have his taxes soon. I think that part is one of their dumber ideas.

frankj1
Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:28:02 PM

Or they could be building a stronger case every time a subpoena is ignored. Who knows.

I think they will have his taxes soon. I think that part is one of their dumber ideas.

teedubbya wrote:

They will.

I really hope there is no impeachment, it would be devastating for the country. Yes, I'd like to see Trump voted out (not likely at this point) but I believe he will face a ton of problems once out of office.

teedubbya
Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:56:12 PM
Folks act like he never existed before his presidential run. He’s always been slimy.

I also don’t want an impeachment. I get the frustration that put him there. I also get not Hillary. I just want folks to wake up and move him along next election. The dudes a cancer. Always has been.

frankj1
Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:58:31 PM
pretty much, yeah.
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