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victor809
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6 years ago

#41

You mean has someone ever asked me to keep a secret and then I immediately didn't keep it but expected others to? No, can't say I am a sh*thead...

opelmanta1900 wrote:

opposite...

opelmanta1900
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6 years ago

#42

opposite...

victor809 wrote:

Has someone ever asked me to not keep something secret but I did? What kind of weird ass friends are you hanging out with?

victor809
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6 years ago

#43

Has someone ever asked me to not keep something secret but I did? What kind of weird ass friends are you hanging out with?

opelmanta1900 wrote:

No. Have you ever told someone something which was NOT told to you in confidence, and specifically asked them to keep it secret?

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#44

You've mentioned those libraries before.... **** those libraries and **** the fake ass people they represent...

Obama, Bush, Clinton, the other Bush... Bad people... Bad people who lied and schemed to get their way but you somehow find respect for them because they pretended to be dignified...

For the life of me, I'll never understand how people can respect the fakeness of politicians and actors... Maybe they're blind to it? Maybe they think people actually talk the way Obama talked during his speeches?

I dunno... It's a dumb country, that's for sure...

opelmanta1900 wrote:

Trump good

Fire and all others bad

Trump only truth guy

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#45

We have had some good, smart leaders with integrity. We have had some that were not. You can argue about any or all of them. Most are a mix. I've supported some (like GWB) until I couldn't anymore. Some I don't respect at all and never have. Some I disagreed with but respect. Some were really smart and despicable. Some were less intelligent but decent. We can learn from all of them. The premise of learning at a library is somehow bad a non starter with me.

To somehow say all our other leaders were bad and their libraries worthless and trump is good is living in the bizzaro world and seems to be a pretty big stretch to accept the unacceptable. Less intelligent and despicable is no way to live your life.

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opelmanta1900
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6 years ago

#46

We have had some good, smart leaders with integrity.

teedubbya wrote:

Been a long time... Pre-JFK... And even then, I tend to think we just remember them as having integrity... We used to be a united states, and back then we didn't always record the blemishes of our leaders...

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#47

We’ve had some bad ones but in my lifetime we’ve not had anything like this hot mess.

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#48

And for what it’s worth the Nixon library does a pretty good job of recording the blemishes. Go check it out.

opelmanta1900
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6 years ago

#49

We’ve had some bad ones but in my lifetime we’ve not had anything like this hot mess.

teedubbya wrote:

That's where we'll forever disagree... I think previous presidents just had a much higher incentive to cover up what a mess they were... So they disguised it with what Hollywood calls class and dignity, but in fact is nothing more than an expensive pair of clothes and a condescending, non-human manner of speaking...

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victor809
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6 years ago

#50

opelmanta1900 wrote:

So you are just assuming that they were as bad as twitler, because they covered it up and you can't see the bad things you're sure happened.

That's ... kinda the definition of baseless. I'm really not sure about this new news source.

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#51

Other presidencies are well documented...good and bad. The Nixon library is fascinating and you can learn a lot. Same with Reagan, Eisenhower, Truman etc. lots of source documents and communications let alone tapes.

Over time we’ve seen more dirt on all of them. We will see more on trump as time goes by as well. His corruption is showing now but will be glaring over time.

opelmanta1900
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6 years ago

#52

victor809 wrote:

Heavy cocaine use, rampant adultery, banging employees, talking when you think your microphone is off, lying, getting caught in lies, lying more to cover those lies...

You use that word baseless... I don't think it means what you think it means...

victor809
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6 years ago

#53

opelmanta1900 wrote:

.... ummm....
So a complete amalgamation of all the bad stuff we have dug up on past presidents is .... equivalent to what one current president has done before the digging even started?

Seriously... you listed a lot of stuff... and trump's done pretty much all of it (well substitute narcotic cold meds for coke) and we haven't even gotten to the part where the actual coverups start coming to light

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teedubbya
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6 years ago

#54

And all of that is known and used as a comparison.

opelmanta1900
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6 years ago

#55

We know a bunch of bad about a guy who hides nothing and a little bad about guys who hid everything... And somehow the first guy is worse...

victor809
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6 years ago

#56

... you assume nothing has been kept from us ...

opelmanta1900
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6 years ago

#57

And you're assuming he's smart enough to hide things... Who's the fool?

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#58

We know a bunch of bad about a guy who hides nothing and a little bad about guys who hid everything... And somehow the first guy is worse...

opelmanta1900 wrote:

Well ... it took a whistle blower to show one instance of hiding rough call notes on a secretive server rather than the norm, and there is a refusal to turn over any documents or allow his peeps to testify. So we are seeing a narrow swath of one issue that we didn't until just recently and still are not seeing everything. And all that had to happen with pressure. Not exactly transparent no matter how many times he tells you that and how bad you want to believe it.

so you can buy the hides nothing crap along with the Brooklyn bridge all you want. I'll rent it from you once in possession.

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DrafterX
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6 years ago

#59

Would you testify if you were told not to bring legal council with you..?? 😕

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#60

Would you testify if you were told not to bring legal council with you..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

Yes as the ones that are defying the white house are. If I didn't do anything wrong but saw wrong doing (or didn't) I certainly would. I actually did, on an issue that had little to do with me but I was listed as a potential witness. It was not with congress though. I'm not comfortable saying with who. I consulted a lawyer, understood the risk and responsibility and really had no choice. SO I went in and told the truth and moved on. Happens every day.

As for transparent and open, the guy had a shadow foreign policy happening through rudy LOL. Getting caught isn't transparent.

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