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Kinda my point. To call what happened yesterday a "normal day" is really minimizing what sort of nonsense is occurring at this stage in our national politics.

Abrignac
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6 years ago

#26

Really really?

Kidding aside this is not business as usual on either side

teedubbya wrote:

Not saying it is, but we certainly are swiftly moving in that direction since we now live in us against them nation.

victor809
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6 years ago

#27

Not saying it is, but we certainly are swiftly moving in that direction since we now live in us against them nation.

Abrignac wrote:

whats the difference between "business as usual" and "So a normal day in DC then"

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#28

Ya I'm worried about the us vs them and all information that contradict my support of us is fake.

there is plenty of stank in both us and them and the leader of my party is as corrupt as they come. Yet he is exploiting the us vs them and otherwise rational people are supporting things they never would have previously. It's ugly. And yes - "they" are corrupt to. But that doesn't change or justify the stank within us.

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#29

For gods sake... the leader of our country prides himself on his ability to come up with derogatory names for people he doesn't like and to make it stick. That alone should make decent people pause.

victor809
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6 years ago

#30

For gods sake... the leader of our country prides himself on his ability to come up with derogatory names for people he doesn't like and to make it stick. That alone should make decent people pause.

teedubbya wrote:

You assume that it didn't.

Abrignac
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6 years ago

#31

For gods sake... the leader of our country prides himself on his ability to come up with derogatory names for people he doesn't like and to make it stick. That alone should make decent people pause.

teedubbya wrote:

Though I support many of his ideas, I’ve lost what very little respect that I ever had for him.

rfenst
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6 years ago

#32

That's a part I was curious about....didn't see mention of it in any reports.......were there Republicans in the SCIF for the questioning....I mean before the mob crashed the party?

dstieger wrote:

Yes. There are forty-some-odd Republicans on the three committees holding the hearings.

delta1
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6 years ago

#33

Though I support many of his ideas, I’ve lost what very little respect that I ever had for him.

Abrignac wrote:

says something about your values and character...

as opposed to those who respect him more and defend him for being so intentionally and specifically inflammatory and offensive...

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opelmanta1900
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6 years ago

#34

is this guy still president?

teedubbya
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6 years ago

#35

delta? no.

frankj1
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6 years ago

#36

Yes. There are forty-some-odd Republicans on the three committees holding the hearings.

rfenst wrote:

yeah, there are republicans on the committees.
My understanding of the secrecy (for now) is that it is meant to prevent future testimony from mimicking previous testimony...sort of collusion prevention, if that's the right word?

delta1
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6 years ago

#37

The three House committees conducting the pre-impeachment investigations behind closed doors have 47 GOP members and 57 Dem members. GOP members are given 50% of the time to ask questions.

One would think if things were going Trump's way behind closed doors, that sentiment would be leaked by the GOP members who participated, supporting his position.

It's funny, but several of the GOP members who stormed the SCIF meeting room are among the 47 GOP members who attend the closed door hearings. This is considered a preliminary evidentiary phase of a possible impeachment inquiry. When/if sufficient evidence to support an impeachment is found, then the process will be open/public.

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dstieger
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6 years ago

#38

frankj1 wrote:

Weak

delta1
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6 years ago

#39

more precisely, to prevent potential witnesses from lining up their stories and "refreshing" their memories, and divulging identities of potential witnesses...sort of like the grand jury phase of an investigation being done in secrecy...

but since this isn't a criminal trial, the GOP wants it done in the open, and with the ability for Trump's lawyers to attend to question the witnesses and to call their own witnesses...contradicting their decision to conduct the Benghazi investigation behind closed doors...

the public phase where potential articles of impeachment are debated will be open, and should happen soon...there aren't many witnesses left on the list...

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frankj1
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6 years ago

#40

Weak

dstieger wrote:

might be customary for all I know.
but it is evidence gathering and like Grand Juries that consider evidence without open-to-the-public testimony, might be the fairest method before pursuing or dropping criminal charges for both the accused and the accuser.
If it works as intended, witnesses/testifiers could not concoct a story to stick by which would corrupt a fair process.

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