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frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#21

Donny allegedly outed the anonymous complainer. If so, Donny deserves whatever he gets...

rfenst wrote:

I was totally surprised by Rand Paul's statement on the whistle blower!
L'il Donny is a zero

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#22

I was totally surprised by Rand Paul's statement on the whistle blower!
L'il Donny is a zero

frankj1 wrote:

Rand is a two-faced prick.

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#23

Romney never looked so good.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#24

Romney never looked so good.

rfenst wrote:

he's enjoying the high road...with a side of revenge!

Whistlebritches
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#25

I was totally surprised by Rand Paul's statement on the whistle blower!
L'il Donny is a zero

frankj1 wrote:

If this had happened to Obama the whistleblowers name would've been announced days ago by the dems.…....……..unless it implicated a Clinton,in that case he/she would've already disappeared

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#26

do any of you know the real timeline?

The investigation by the guy who Biden and the US and the European Union and more wanted removed had already concluded. So there was no need for Biden to make what you all incorrectly say was a personal qpq. He also did not have that authority.

The world wanted the guy removed because he was actually blocking corruption investigations!

Unless I missed audio of Biden saying stay away from my kid's company or I'll personally withhold aid...

Joe, I'll get you back up to speed on the difference...It seems that the POTUS used the threat of holding back Congressionally allocated aid to pressure Ukraine to to reopen a closed corruption case in which the Bidens were not even considered involved nor charged FOR THE PURPOSE OF HARMING A POTENTIAL REELECTION OPPONENT.
This is specifically against the Constitution...recruiting the assistance of a foreign power to help win an election.

frankj1 wrote:

What part of me saying it's a "worthy discussion" did you not understand. I agree with your last paragraph in that it should be looked into. I've been purposely quiet on the recent inquiry because I'm not ready to defend nor condemn until we really know what happened.

But regardless of WHY Trump wants to investigate Biden's actions, you have to admit that what he bragged about should absolutely be investigated. True, the world wanted the guy removed for different reasons. But that doesn't mean the obvious conflict of interest and likely financial misdeeds did not occur with Hunter Biden.

Again, it's not an either/or.
Separate Trump from the equation and look at what Biden bragged about and look at where his son was working and look at the monies that transferred and ask yourself in a moment of honesty if you really think it's all on the up and up.

I hate the quid pro quo looming over trump. Not because it was a big deal. But because it makes him the exact thing he claimed lived in the "swamp". These things happened ALL THE TIME. Don't be so naive to think it started with the Donald. So don't worry about bringing me up to speed. I know the facts, and I read the slanted innuendo posing as facts.
I'm not saying "but Biden" here either. I'm just saying don't be fooled. Again. By the left.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#27

not as sure as you are that recruiting or coercing foreign governments to help sway an election happens all the time. Can't recall ever in my lifetime, but I could be wrong.

However, I am sure that recruiting or coercing foreign governments to help our national interests does happen all the time, did not start with the Donald, and he may not even be as good at it as all others. Allies need to know our word is our bond and we aren't only financial bullies threatening economic destruction.

Re: impeachment inquiry...for months I stated I'd rather use the election to make changes and that impeachment is a difficult wound from which to heal (prettier phrasing this time) but I am now all in on the inquiry part.
However, for the good of the nation I I hope an actual Impeachment trial does not happen.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#28

and I said a long time ago, he was misinterpreted. What he meant was STRAIN the swamp, not drain it.
He wanted to keep the big chunks...HA!

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#29

I may have figured out the split here.

There are two separate things involving Biden(s) that are being presented by Trump and Rudy G as if they go hand in hand and then repeated by Trump's base...(not necessarily tg)

1) was Joe somehow more involved in his kid raking in money than just being his father with a powerful name...

2) Daddy Biden bragging...which was not related to his kid. It was bragging about coercing a government to get rid of an investigator because that investigator did not really investigate the corruption that the free world wanted cleaned up. Coercion that benefited our and the free world's interests.

the first issue...sure. open it up... yet again if you must. Oddly fortunate timing for Trump, and at least acknowledge Rudy G's role in it as long as we are talking about things looking questionable.

the second thing is being purposely, incorrectly, and dishonestly blended in and confused with the kid's job, and the bragging is always mentioned in the same breath with the kid's job, but the bragging was oddly about firing a guy who DID NOT delve into corruption. Odd because the Biden kid's company was one such case...

Abrignac
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#30

An issue with a secret server. Hillary used one where classified information was passed. Yet, only now Dems seem interested?

Pot meet kettle

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#31

and I said a long time ago, he was misinterpreted. What he meant was STRAIN the swamp, not drain it.
He wanted to keep the big chunks...HA!

frankj1 wrote:

who you calling a big chunk?

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#32

The big hunk and the chunky are the 2 worst candy bars ever invented...

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#33

Chunky? that was great!

"What a chunk of chocolate"
Arnold Stang (also the voice of Top Cat)

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#34

An issue with a secret server. Hillary used one where classified information was passed. Yet, only now Dems seem interested?

Pot meet kettle

Abrignac wrote:

it killed her when Comey reopened the investigation just before the election.
didn't hurt Ivanka much when she did it.

I'd bet there are dozens of situations like those two, which weren't about secret servers, quite the opposite. They were stupidly using not secure servers

...but this new one was intended to hide potentially illegal activities...which is also illegal.

Abrignac
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#35

frankj1 wrote:

That’s my point. There ample qpq on both sides.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#36

That’s my point. There ample qpq on both sides.

Abrignac wrote:

part of why I am enrolled as "Unenrolled"!
even though I believe I am mostly liberal, there really isn't a party that represents me. I'd be OK with stuff that works from another side, but today you have to be all in or you're out.

Abrignac
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#37

frankj1 wrote:

Very true. I’m also unattached but lean right.

tailgater
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6 years ago

#38

frankj1 wrote:

I promise to never vote for either.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

6 years ago

#39

common ground!

though I have to admit I have a thing for Ivanka.
I heard she likes Jewish guys too.

Abrignac
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6 years ago

#40

common ground!

though I have to admit I have a thing for Ivanka.
I heard she likes Jewish guys too.

frankj1 wrote:

All of them or just the tripods?

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