delta1
6 years ago
he was the front runner in all the polls at the time Giuliani started his campaign to find info helpful to Trump in Ukraine early in 2018...

apparently he and Manafort cooked up, or were provided with, a tidbit about Ukraine having possession of the DNC server...keep in mind that Manafort worked for Russian aligned corrupt Ukrainian politicians and oligarchs at the time he joined the Trump election campaign -- for free...and while Manafort was running Trump's campaign, they were able to convince the GOP to help Russia by softening its plank in support of Ukraine, by prohibiting the sale of lethal weapons to Ukraine.....wonder who was paying him...


at some point, we'll get answers to some of these weird connections involving Russia and the 2016 elections...it was never a "thing" in American politics until Trump...
Mr. Jones
6 years ago
Ok....

Answer me this???

WHY??

IS HUNTER BANGING HIS DEAD BROTHERS WIFE?

And has dumped his wife for her?...

What a S.W.E.L.L. GUY...

THAT LITTLE HUNTER BIDEN DOUCHE IS DIRTY AS THE DAY IS LONG...AND YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF ostriches STICKING YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND .....CHANTING..
.I KNOW NOTHING...
frankj1
6 years ago

Ok....

Answer me this???

WHY??

IS HUNTER BANGING HIS DEAD BROTHERS WIFE?

And has dumped his wife for her?...

What a S.W.E.L.L. GUY...

THAT LITTLE HUNTER BIDEN DOUCHE IS DIRTY AS THE DAY IS LONG...AND YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF ostriches STICKING YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND .....CHANTING..
.I KNOW NOTHING...

Mr. Jones wrote:


he dated his sil after his divorce, it didn't take, he married another woman in 2019.

I say all this without any idea what kind of character or morals Hunter possesses.
MACS
  • MACS
  • Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter
6 years ago
Seems there is now an e-mail, obtained through the freedom of information act, that shows Burisma (the company for whom Hunter Biden was a paid board member) contacting the US State Department and dropping Biden's name to set up a meeting... About a month before Joe said this:


frankj1
6 years ago
this vid is the old one already misrepresented by Trump?
Whistlebritches
6 years ago

Seems there is now an e-mail, obtained through the freedom of information act, that shows Burisma (the company for whom Hunter Biden was a paid board member) contacting the US State Department and dropping Biden's name to set up a meeting... About a month before Joe said this:



MACS wrote:



Pretty obvious here.....you can throw out all the facts you want,the left refuses to see.

Frank,Al…...I love both of you but fellas let's get real,how many facts can you ignore?Stop towing that party line...……….
tailgater
6 years ago

you do know you are connecting unrelated stuff together as though it is being investigated, right?

a simple check will inform what Biden's mission was for with the backing of pretty much the rest of the free world, and that mission wasn't "leave my son alone".

frankj1 wrote:



So it's just a coincidence.
Got it.



Donald Jr? The most fortunate son since his father!
Of all people to be slinging sleaze accusations.

frankj1 wrote:



Absolutely true.
But doesn't make his comment less true.
It's not an either/or.


DrafterX
6 years ago
Clinton Foundation... just sayin. 😟
tailgater
6 years ago

this vid is the old one already misrepresented by Trump?

frankj1 wrote:



Misrepresented.
LOL!


We can debate Trumps QPQ and whether it's an impeachable offense.

But it makes it difficult to take you seriously if you continue to ignore Biden's own QPQ.

Maybe Trump's is worse because he's POTUS. Again, a worthy discussion.
But to sweep Biden's under the rug when he so readily bragged about it?

And why the severe deflection by the left?
Shouldn't we be pursuing the Biden QPQ with the same vigor we're investigating Trump's?
If it pans out to be 100% innocent as you claim to know, then fine.
But we're shooting the proverbial messenger before the message is even clarified.
Because. Trump.


frankj1
6 years ago

Misrepresented.
LOL!


We can debate Trumps QPQ and whether it's an impeachable offense.

But it makes it difficult to take you seriously if you continue to ignore Biden's own QPQ.

Maybe Trump's is worse because he's POTUS. Again, a worthy discussion.
But to sweep Biden's under the rug when he so readily bragged about it?

And why the severe deflection by the left?
Shouldn't we be pursuing the Biden QPQ with the same vigor we're investigating Trump's?
If it pans out to be 100% innocent as you claim to know, then fine.
But we're shooting the proverbial messenger before the message is even clarified.
Because. Trump.


tailgater wrote:


do any of you know the real timeline?

The investigation by the guy who Biden and the US and the European Union and more wanted removed had already concluded. So there was no need for Biden to make what you all incorrectly say was a personal qpq. He also did not have that authority.

The world wanted the guy removed because he was actually blocking corruption investigations!

Unless I missed audio of Biden saying stay away from my kid's company or I'll personally withhold aid...


Joe, I'll get you back up to speed on the difference...It seems that the POTUS used the threat of holding back Congressionally allocated aid to pressure Ukraine to to reopen a closed corruption case in which the Bidens were not even considered involved nor charged FOR THE PURPOSE OF HARMING A POTENTIAL REELECTION OPPONENT.
This is specifically against the Constitution...recruiting the assistance of a foreign power to help win an election.

teedubbya
6 years ago
The time line and official policy make all the difference. What Biden did was in the open and supported by the congress and western world. What trump did was behind closed doors, not supported by congress (opposite) or the western world, involved a shadow government and was then locked in a secret server because they knew it was wrong.

Yes Biden’s son made money off of his name. I won’t defend that. Happens all the time and I wish it didn’t.

But the prosecutor was removed for NOT investigating corruption. Don’t believe it? Go back to news stories that were contemporary. It was all out in the open and made sense. No one took issue but it was reported out widely. If you didn’t pay attention that doesn’t mean it wasn’t or somehow the media is to blame again. And being in the open the Republicans not only didn’t take issue with it they supported it. To believe that conspiracy theory you have to piece together things in a way they simply didn’t happen and you have to modify history to fit you current needs. And Biden did give some nice fuel for this. He should have stayed out of it or at least not acted all macho.

Trump supporters are being played constantly by the guy. He is using them. Think of all the things you had to believe to believe birtherism starting with the birth announcement in the contemporary paper was a plant. Remember his investigators had proof bammy wasn’t born here and he’d bring it out soon, very soon. Come on now don’t pretend it didn’t happen.

Great business man took only 1 million from his farther and became a billionaire. Never mind how much more it really was and all the bankruptcies. Never happened.

Most transparent administration ever. Yet things are being moved to a secret server for political purposes, absolute executive privilege, tax returns, on and on....

He is the only one telling the truth and everyone else is lying or out to get him. This is part of the Lance Armstrong defense tactic. Think of all the people who have to be lying, hateful, or so partisan they put party over country. And trump is the only straight shooter. Trump is well known for lies prior to running for office is magically the only one that can tell the truth .... even when he consistently lies right in front of you and it is obvious.

With Armstrong it got ridiculous. It was obvious when all his ex teammates and opponents got caught, and a large number of people said he was dirty. Yet Armstrong tried to destroy the lives of anyone hinting he was dirty and his supporters wanted to believe. Armstrong and trump are very similar in this regard. Anyone paying attention with an open mind knew he was dirty. They both are. It’s sick to see the destruction machine go after people. Yet some in here participate. In both instances because the want to support their hero and will believe anything to do so. They will suspend reality. Trump knows this and has been brazen enough to say it out loud. How insulting to his supporters but he says it anyway.

I understand wanting to believe in someone but do so only until it’s obvious they are not who they say they are. Don’t go after the other guy (Like them or not) to. Defend the indefensible. I’m hoping some trump supporters will quit playing the game and pretending the sky is yellow and the sun is blue. This game doesn’t benefit the little guys like us, why play it? You are not really on the team you are just useful to it..
teedubbya
6 years ago
And if you don t believe the southern strategy was real you simply don’t know your history. It is well documented by primary source documents and contemporary documentation as well. It’s not a secret or even controversial.
opelmanta1900
6 years ago

What Biden did was in the open and supported by the congress and western world.

teedubbya wrote:


Similar argument could be made for Hitler's actions... I don't personally think that makes it right, but you're entitled to your opinion... I guess...
frankj1
6 years ago

Similar argument could be made for Hitler's actions... I don't personally think that makes it right, but you're entitled to your opinion... I guess...

opelmanta1900 wrote:


way off base, and incorrect.
It even took a long time for Roosevelt to learn of the massacre of the European Jews...(though he still dragged his feet).

and beyond that, it has zero to do with Trump today.
frankj1
6 years ago

The time line and official policy make all the difference. What Biden did was in the open and supported by the congress and western world. What trump did was behind closed doors, not supported by congress (opposite) or the western world, involved a shadow government and was then locked in a secret server because they knew it was wrong.

Yes Biden’s son made money off of his name. I won’t defend that. Happens all the time and I wish it didn’t.

But the prosecutor was removed for NOT investigating corruption. Don’t believe it? Go back to news stories that were contemporary. It was all out in the open and made sense. No one took issue but it was reported out widely. If you didn’t pay attention that doesn’t mean it wasn’t or somehow the media is to blame again. And being in the open the Republicans not only didn’t take issue with it they supported it. To believe that conspiracy theory you have to piece together things in a way they simply didn’t happen and you have to modify history to fit you current needs. And Biden did give some nice fuel for this. He should have stayed out of it or at least not acted all macho.

Trump supporters are being played constantly by the guy. He is using them. Think of all the things you had to believe to believe birtherism starting with the birth announcement in the contemporary paper was a plant. Remember his investigators had proof bammy wasn’t born here and he’d bring it out soon, very soon. Come on now don’t pretend it didn’t happen.

Great business man took only 1 million from his farther and became a billionaire. Never mind how much more it really was and all the bankruptcies. Never happened.

Most transparent administration ever. Yet things are being moved to a secret server for political purposes, absolute executive privilege, tax returns, on and on....

He is the only one telling the truth and everyone else is lying or out to get him. This is part of the Lance Armstrong defense tactic. Think of all the people who have to be lying, hateful, or so partisan they put party over country. And trump is the only straight shooter. Trump is well known for lies prior to running for office is magically the only one that can tell the truth .... even when he consistently lies right in front of you and it is obvious.

With Armstrong it got ridiculous. It was obvious when all his ex teammates and opponents got caught, and a large number of people said he was dirty. Yet Armstrong tried to destroy the lives of anyone hinting he was dirty and his supporters wanted to believe. Armstrong and trump are very similar in this regard. Anyone paying attention with an open mind knew he was dirty. They both are. It’s sick to see the destruction machine go after people. Yet some in here participate. In both instances because the want to support their hero and will believe anything to do so. They will suspend reality. Trump knows this and has been brazen enough to say it out loud. How insulting to his supporters but he says it anyway.

I understand wanting to believe in someone but do so only until it’s obvious they are not who they say they are. Don’t go after the other guy (Like them or not) to. Defend the indefensible. I’m hoping some trump supporters will quit playing the game and pretending the sky is yellow and the sun is blue. This game doesn’t benefit the little guys like us, why play it? You are not really on the team you are just useful to it..

teedubbya wrote:



the only thing people will take away from this is that Trump also has one ball.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Ironically it supported what I said.
rfenst
6 years ago

To 'The View': "Hunter Biden utilized his father's vice presidency to magically end up on a board in Ukraine, with a language he doesn't speak, on a business he knows nothing about for $83k a month. If I did that you guys would lose your minds."

He's right, ya know... but they want to shove that under the rug and want to impeach Trump for trying to uncover it.

MACS wrote:


The Biden story will come out soon. And, it should!
rfenst
6 years ago
Great thread so far, guys. But, the title of the thread is about Donnie Trump. What's up?
frankj1
6 years ago
it's Donnie smearing his daddy's rival and claiming victim's status.
nothing unusual.
rfenst
6 years ago

it's Donnie smearing his daddy's rival and claiming victim's status.
nothing unusual.

frankj1 wrote:


Donny allegedly outed the anonymous complainer. If so, Donny deserves whatever he gets...
Users browsing this topic