ZRX1200
6 years ago
#23 yes it is because “climate change” is a rouse to redistribute wealth so of course the rest of the world is supporting crippling the greatest country in the world.
Bumblebee395
6 years ago

You first.

(ps... most real science doesn't end up in books for a year or two. If you want to impress anyone, please post the scientific literature you've read).

victor809 wrote:



I've mentioned "climate change" books on here before. The very best and easiest to read is

Inconvenient Facts: The science Al Gore Doesn't Want you To Know by Gregory Wrightstone. Written in a way even liberals
can understand.

The only person I need to impress is my wife. I wish it were on a nightly basis but some of you know what it's like to have
been married for a while.

Now, if you are arguing my statements about "man made climate change" I'll save the nicest bridge for you. I'll give you a
really good deal. REALLY good!
victor809
6 years ago

I've mentioned climate change "books" on here before. The very best and easiest to read is

Inconvenient Facts: The science Al Gore Doesn't Want you To Know by Gregory Wrightstone. Written in a way even liberals
can understand.

The only person I need to impress is my wife. I wish it were on a nightly basis but some of you know what it's like to have
been married for a while.

Now, if you are arguing my statements about "man made climate change" I'll save the nicest bridge for you. I'll give you a
really good deal. REALLY good!

Bumblebee395 wrote:



FIFY
I just dug through the gregory wrightstone website on that book.
I think your biggest problem is you need something that's "easy to read". Maybe if you read something more technical you would actually get correct information.
frankj1
6 years ago
follow the money...also easy to read.
victor809
6 years ago
I read more of this guy's website.
He blatantly lies to his readers (citing data that is not from where he claims), he doesn't do the simplest of analysis of the data he presents (and hopes that his readers won't dig in and read the source material)... It appears that he doesn't actually read the articles he is refuting, or is hoping that his readers don't read them, because his arguments are not even based on the information presented in the papers.

This guy is bunk. He probably should be on Prager U. Hell, he probably was on Prager U.
victor809
6 years ago
An easy example of how he lies to his audience is in his section on "Heat & Life, Cold & Death" in which he is claiming to refute an article published in The Lancet on the health impact of temperature change.
Ignoring the many, many other problems in his section, let's look specifically at the premise of the Lancet article. The lancet article states that changes in temperature will lead to a number of factors globally which will increase human deaths. Drought, food shortages, spread of infectious disease, etc... primarily in low-to-middle income countries. His response is that it must be false because there has been a decrease in deaths due to heat stroke in European countries.

Note... European countries for the most part aren't falling in the low-to-middle income countries. They are not anywhere close to an adequate representation.
Secondly, note he is trying to refute an article identifying indirect impacts of climate change by saying it must be false because this direct impact (which is easily fixed in wealthy countries with an air conditioning unit) did not occur.
MACS
6 years ago

do you have CTE? the media is not a vague term in any way shape or form...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



Did you just politely ask Victor if he was a 'tard?
victor809
6 years ago

Did you just politely ask Victor if he was a 'tard?

MACS wrote:



No he asked if I was on the Committee on Trade and the Environment, because my answers were so cogent, he assumed I must be a professional in the industry.

You didn't clearly get that from the context, ya 'tard? 😰
MACS
6 years ago
LOL, okay... that was good.
victor809
6 years ago
I have my moments.
RobertHively
6 years ago

Glad to see that you all are feeling good today...

#9 I agree. The fact that the UN/Global Government is pushing it so hard makes me think that it's the newest scheme to extract money from the "taxpayer". Secondly, I do remember "global warming" and how all those so called "scientists" and university professors got busted manipulating the data back in 09, in order to keeping receiving govt funding. The higher temps the better... It was called "climate gate" and the last time I looked most of the articles that correspond with the scandal have been scrubbed from the internet.I pretty much lost my only liberal friend when I gloated about how, for years, I told him I thought global warming was a scam (As most Govt programs seem to be...these days.) But I got Frank as my liberal friend now so it's all good. Anyway, a year later "they" changed the title to "climate change" but it's the same ol BS. I do, however, know that weather modification is a real thing. I'd like to know how much of this unusual weather is government made? Remember these people "never let a good crisis go to waste" whether it's real or fabricated.

Lets say climate change is a real thing though, good. My property in the mountains will be worth more bc it will be much closer to the ocean when the sea levels rise. Perhaps I'll build a bungalow and rent it out to old folks and soccer moms. Plus with the warmer weather I'll be able to Smallmouth fish year round. Only the strong survive!

#1 Yeah there are numerous people more deserving of that award than a 16 yr old shill. Lol! But who cares about Time Magazine?? Maybe Trump, but he's a meglomaniac. What Federal politician isnt? Why not give it to Trump? They gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize and he continued 2 wars (Afghanistan & Iraq) and started another 2 over there,(Libya and Yemen) and didnt he bomb the fu*king moon? But did he do all of that, or is the president of the U.S. just middle management these days??

I think it's hard for all of us to fathom how evil our "leaders" really are... Look at 9/11. Building 7? Yeah. They couldn't lead me across the street.

#10 Maybe. But I dont mind reading what everybody has to say. I love this forum bc it is one of the last bastions of free speech on the internet, or in the real world for that matter.

I think it's important that we TRY to see things from every angle. It's hard to do... I'm sure a lot of guys on here think what I just posted is ridiculous. That's ok. I'm basing it on what Ive seen and read. And I've read a lot of left wing and right wing stuff. Sun Tzu taught me to know my enemy. I know I wont vote for a communist, or a fascist, so there's nobody left for me to vote for. That's assuming that you guys still think your vote counts. The way I see it is, the only vote we truly have is with our dollar.

Ok, I'm done for the day. Greta 2020?? CROS?



frankj1
6 years ago
yes, I am your friend!

do I qualify for a reduced rate to rent the mountain H.U.T.?
delta1
6 years ago
we won't be around when Greta and her generation (my grandkids) have to confront the realities that we leave them...

most of the denier arguments are propaganda promulgated by the oil and gas industry...

the biggest oil companies all have internal documents acknowledging their culpability in global warming/climate change: an example is having to adjust their plans for future facilities for rising sea level...they are bolstering their risk management programs in anticipation of legal liability.....it'll be interesting to see how the courts will decide...

it's interesting how a lot of folks trust big business more than government, despite ample proof that big business has earned a reputation for screwing the average consumer, screwing the environment and causing world shaking economic upheavals since the beginning of the 20th Century...

growth of govt and govt regulation can be directly related to catastrophes caused by private business excess...latest example of government having to bail out big business was the Great Recession of 2008...
CelticBomber
6 years ago
I always trust science claims coming from political ideology! Sure, gigantic glaciers are melting and the migration patterns of entire species have changed but since they don't vote Republican we get a million Officers Barbrady's "Move along people! Nothing to see here!" or it's "Der try'n ta take our jerbs!"
CelticBomber
6 years ago
I always trust science claims coming from political ideology! Sure, gigantic glaciers are melting and the migration patterns of entire species have changed but since they don't vote Republican we get a million Officers Barbrady's "Move along people! Nothing to see here!" or it's "Der try'n ta take our jerbs!"
deadeyedick
6 years ago

we won't be around when Greta and her generation (my grandkids) have to confront the realities that we leave them...

most of the denier arguments are propaganda promulgated by the oil and gas industry...

the biggest oil companies all have internal documents acknowledging their culpability in global warming/climate change: an example is having to adjust their plans for future facilities for rising sea level...they are bolstering their risk management programs in anticipation of legal liability.....it'll be interesting to see how the courts will decide...

it's interesting how a lot of folks trust big business more than government, despite ample proof that big business has earned a reputation for screwing the average consumer, screwing the environment and causing world shaking economic upheavals since the beginning of the 20th Century...

growth of govt and govt regulation can be directly related to catastrophes caused by private business excess...latest example of government having to bail out big business was the Great Recession of 2008...

delta1 wrote:



Looks like delta but sounds just like Lizzy. It's all the big corporation's fault. I guess the rest of us have no culpability since we were forced to buy and use their product.
ZRX1200
6 years ago
Oh gosh Al, I don’t know......maybe it’s because companies have had to pay for damages and government officials are never held accountable.

DrMaddVibe
6 years ago

we won't be around when Greta and her generation (my grandkids) have to confront the realities that we leave them..

delta1 wrote:




Keep yer powder dry and stop drinking the DNC kook-aid.

Manbearpig was proven to be a gigantic frantic scaredy cat with his bag of lies.

https://www.usapoliticstoday.org/scientists-al-gore-liar-climate-change/ 

At this stage one with common sense would have to look at what he's said that has come to pass.

Seriously, do you ever question what the DNC tells you?
delta1
6 years ago
my choice of literature occasionally strays from DNC orthodoxy...


by the way, you may want to check the bona fides of that list of 31K "scientists"
DrMaddVibe
6 years ago
Not a bonafide. More like a hot knife through table warm butter. Remember the "science" is irrefutable. Can't argue it. They cannot duplicate it either. This should've shown you it was a lie. They were busted for manipulating data, putting collection devices in shallow waters, back zones of major airports just to scare people.
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