makes me want to tax the corporations that knowingly entice them here and employ them!

frankj1 wrote:

Ditto ………..This IMO is the beginning of the end and the return of living wages.Americans will do this menial labor if paid appropriate wages.It's time to hold these demons accountable......let's start at $25K per illegal employee and double it every subsequent offense.

Whistlebritches wrote:

As an Oregon resident, my current driver’s license will no longer be accepted as ID on flights. This is thanks to liberal dipsheet policies for north of the Roseburg line.......

Let me gather my #OUTRAGE! for you Victor. Gimme a min.

ZRX1200 wrote:

makes me want to tax the corporations that knowingly entice them here and employ them!

frankj1 wrote:

Tax?

Fine them into oblivion. Do not pass go. Go to jail.

But hey maybe some people.have the extra 6500.00...I think that its grossly under counted.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

guess I read you wrong on that one!
The late, great radio talk show host Jerry Williams used to say fees, fines, and taxes are all taxes.

we're looking at a catch 22 here. These Captains of Industry who run these mega corps that are basically importing illegals to come here to work on the cheap also have tentacles that reach and even currently reside in the White H.U.T.
Which one of them will step up to lead the campaign to fine themselves?

frankj1 wrote:

granted our immigration policies are a mess and need major re-writes...

executive fiats to reverse previous decisions and flout our heritage of a powerful nation built by immigrants is not the way accomplish this...it does serve Trump's purposes though...which is to demonize people from other countries and close the doors to only a select few, which appeals to the xenophobes and far right nationalists among us...the Statue of Liberty be damned...

Americans, as a whole, are much more positive about immigration: these American values are at odds with what the Trump administration is doing...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1660/immigration.aspx 


sample question from the poll: On the whole, do you think immigration is a good thing or a bad thing for this country today?

76% say it is a good thing

delta1 wrote:

edit: for #43


how about recruiting and hiring them?
why come here without incentives?

frankj1 wrote:

A. people here illegally should be forced to leave.
B. Laws should be enforced.
3. a drivers license is a legal form of ID for most situations. To suggest that people in the country by illegal methods should be allowed to have one is ridiculous.
D. People here illegally should be forced to leave.

It's not rocket surgery folks.

Laws.
Responsibility.

Shirking either takes a loser mentality.

tailgater wrote:

This whole thing is nonsense and really shows the insanity of the situation.

People's presence here illegally is mainly the responsibility of the federal government. They are the ones who have the jurisdiction to "build a wall" (haha like that will do anything) or provide the visas which people come in on.

Yet local governments (cities/states) are the ones who must somehow keep their region operating as well as possible regardless of the federal government's success or failure at managing illegal immigration.

Clearly over the years, local governments have realized that they are better off managing the illegal population rather than demonizing them. ie, you're better off with illegal immigrants passing a driver's test and driving with a driver's license than you are having them drive without any training/license because they're afraid of the state government. You're better off issuing them an ID and knowing who they are under any number of situations, than you are letting them just live under the radar.

You want them to leave, talk to the federal government.

victor809 wrote:

I posted the link because I'm sick and tired of hearing that it doesn't cost anything and we're a great nation anyways that can afford it. EVERYTHING HAS A COST. There's no "free lunch". Someone is ALWAYS paying for it.

If you have proof that a corporation is doing this...turn them in to ICE!

https://www.ice.gov/worksite 

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Another fine example of a strawman argument.

Abrignac wrote:

Not sure you understand the definition of a strawman argument.
Tail claimed that illegals shouldn't be here.
I pointed out it's not the local government's problem and they're just trying to run a city/state. That's not a "strawman" that's literally in response to what he said.
If you believe it's a strawman, then his statement couldn't be relevant to the conversation at hand.

victor809 wrote:

Exactly. Your solution of looking to the Federal Government to solve this problem isn’t a solution relevant to the problem. Solving this problem REQUIRES a united solution. As long as individual states offer incentives to illegal immigrants a Federal Government solution in IMPOSSIBLE.

Abrignac wrote: