Sources writing and quoted are not unbiased. However, there is a fair amount of data here....not just opinion and abstracts. Tells a much different story than I'd gotten used to hearing. Rather interesting read:

https://inthesetimes.com/features/haiti_earthquake_recovery_us_aid_anniversay_military_waste.html 

Thanks for that one. Great article I had not seen. The one thing I kept seeing, an obviously recurring theme, was the "Clintons" being neck deep. Hillary pushing aid, to a group that Bill was on the board of. What a coincidence.

And the money went who knows where. What are the odds?

The old saw "Our intentions were good" is wore out and obviously a patent lie.

Insert "greed", and you're back to honest. 🐴

If it's from Haiti use a condom...

Your article covers the more recent problems, but the two I listed explain the baked in problems and contrast Haiti with the Dominican Republic.

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Wow that picture of the border from space is too weird!:-k

Yup, pretty rough

I feel badly for those folks. They have been screwed over for Eons. Geo-politics in action. 👎

the slaves shoulda never fought the only successful revolution against their mostly French masters at the end of the 18th century...didn't know how good they had it until they tried to rule themselves...became outcasts to the rest of the world...especially white nations with slave based economies who didn't want to associate or do business with former slaves...then France imposed reparations for former French slave-owners on the Haitian government that they paid until 1947, and still owed...

economic isolation, little experience with self-government, foreign hand in the till, poor leadership, mostly agrarian economy was not a recipe for success...

And the slaves had little in common other than being slaves, i.e., they came from various parts of Africa.

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It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.
“Prejudices are what fools use for reason.” - Voltaire



Anpeche m' manje, M' anpeche w kaka
Tout bèt jennen, mòde.-
Haitian

Been to that chithole many times. Climate not withstanding, except for the grossly over populated coastal plain it is mostly steep mountains. What little bit of relatively flat (ie rolling hills) agricultural land available is devoted to sugar cane production which is used by the Barbancourt rum factory. Not sure if tobacco could be farmed efficiently enough on sheer cliff sides to make it economically feasible. Factor in the fact that for the past 60 or so years it’s been ruled by some of the most cutthroat and corrupt politicians the world has ever known is in of itself enough to rule out foreign investment.

Back in the mid 80’s when I went, a group of us would rent a driver and his van for $20 each. For that we had use of the van from around 7:00 one day to 3-4 AM the next. First stop was the rhum factory up on the top of a mountain. Took about 2 hours to get there. The trip took us up and down switchback roads with no shoulders and steep drop offs. Once there we would pay a few dollars and do a rhum tasting. They had 10-12 different flavors like coconut, pineapple etc…..

Once throughly chit-faced he’d take us down to a break in the reeds where one of his relatives would sneak us onto some resort over run with topless European women. Drunk, we’d just pass out on the chaise loungers and the relative would wake us every so often to remind us to turn over so we didn’t burn too bad. After a few hours he’d lead us back along the path where our driver was waiting. He would drive us back to the dock then wait for us to shower and eat then take us to the bar.

The only bar we could go to without having to worry about getting our necks slit was actually a whorehouse on the other side of the bay from the resort. You’d find a table and order the only thing served. A bottle of Barbancourt Rhum. They’d bring you all the Coca-Cola and ice you needed. If desired, an hour of female company could be had for around $10.

I recall wanting to leave early one time and head back to the ship. It was around 1:30 AM. The driver couldn’t take me because the bar closed at 3:00 AM. Round trip to the dock was about 2 hours so he’d be late picking everyone up if he took me back early. So he took me to his house and told me to wait by the street because the bus would be there in 15 minutes or so.

The bus ended up being some weird contraption painted like the inside of a kaleidoscope. Though crowded with goats, chickens, dogs and a few people I bravely climbed aboard. Shocks must have been completely worn out or non-existent as I think I bounced up and hit my head on the roof a few hundred times by the time I got to the dock. I was surprised to see that I still had of the fillings in my teeth.

When I think back at some of the dumb chit I’ve done I realize just how lucky I am to still be filtering air.

The first thing I think about when I see “Haitian” is this:

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Hey dg deptford,

Drove down to avalon , NJ twice last yr...
Got hornswaggled by the girlfriends apple phone directions and took us a really wacky way down there...
Wellllll
We were all around deptford , NJ in a 10 mile radius and EVERY FREAKIN WHERE I LOOKED WERE BRAND NEW MASSIVE AND I MEAN MASSIVE NEWLY BUILT THREE TO FOUR STORY CONCRETE BUNKER WAREHOUSES WITH DOZENS AND DOZENS OF GARAGE DOORS BUT NOOOO
TRUCKS AT ANY OF THEM...
WHAT THE HELL.IS GOING ON DOWN THERE?
I mean I saw at least 15-20?-30?
Of those 20-40 football field sized warehouses with no humans anywhere?
Is it secret military storage?
Home land security offices with underground parking garages?
It really looks very very strange....they don't say AMAZON , OR EBAY OR any corporate denotations or signage?

What the hell is going on down there?

Coincidence ? I streamed an episode of the old TV show "the Saint" the episode was entitled Haiti and in it Simon Templar was given a locally grown cigar. There also was a girl named Cibao i that episode - which is the name of cigar I've smoked and liked.


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