Yeah I saw those but I'm really hit or miss with AB
clintCigar wrote:
My feeling was that his sticks were getting more consistently good but then when he won cigar of the year, they became more hit and miss for me as well. I figured some upping of production and whatnot was the cause but recently I have had some great "Black Market" cigars. I had the regular Black Market purchased before the Cigar of the Year award and it aged really well. It was outstanding. And the Black Market Esteli is great. I'll take a chance on some Filthy Hooligans for sure if I can get them and at a decent price.
J
I gave up on AB.........to inconsistent across the line.........slowly turning into Rocky.
David
I've given up on AB. Too much inconsistency, too many loosely rolled cigars. This Party's Day I'll smoke an Asylum 13 Ogre 50. Candela/maduro barber poll. The tastiest candela I've ever smoked.
Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
If this box of Hooligans lets me down, I will be right there with you with giving up on AB.
I'm going to wait for next year and the year after, when I've heard the special releases are going to be titled "Smelly Vagrant" and "Reeking Hobo". 🇨🇮
As for the phenomenon of a maker of good cigars starting to churn out crap in much higher volumes, I believe it boils down to a high percentage of cigar smokers not having a sophisticated palate. We here are probably in the top 10% in terms of taste and smell hardware performance and the brainpower to interpret the raw data. I highly suspect a large majority of cigar buyers/smokers simply can't tell the difference between a great cigar and a yard gar. If this is true, then assuming demand is high, financially it makes the most sense to crank out large quantities of yard gars rather than small quantities of great cigars.
Try the Asylum Straight Jacket 6x54. Really nice stick!
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I tried an asylum 13 ogre and couldn't do it. I made less than 1/2 and had to quit. I will try a cigar at least one more time anther time to see if it maybe was something I ate that day or paired it with. But that one I don't know if I could even try again.
Cheno wrote:
people's taste preferences differ.
I mean, some people don't like haggis!
I know, right? But it's true.
never had one, but you liked more than Illusione candela, 88 or 888?
Nowadays? I don’t know, but I’m slowly getting worried about Illusione.
Back in the day, the Illusione Candela was da bestest.............period!
KingoftheCove wrote:
been a while for me so I couldn't say. really loved them.
been getting curious about the garagiste recently...opinion?
I’ve got three Ogres packed away. ROTT, the candela flavor was a bit harsh and really didn’t add anything enjoyable to the smoke, but the remainder has been resting for more than a few years now. I’m sure they have mellowed. Just hoping it’s worth the wait
Bought 3 of the Robustos when they first came out in 2014. Smoked one, gave one away, dunno where the last one is / went. My notes said it was okay but wouldn’t buy again.
frankj1 wrote:
I got one coming in this week. I let u know when I smoke it. Prob be a few weeks though. I have a backlog lol
I like the Ogre myself. Seems more complex than the original 13 yet smoother overall. Of course, I'm finding myself to be an Eiroa ho, so YMMV
I wasn't talking about the monster sized jaw breakers. I'm talking about the 5x50 robs.
Those Illusiones are great cigars, Frank, but that are usually out of my price range.
