SirKnight
Friday, April 24, 2020 4:00:26 PM
To develop herd immunity would everyone need to come out of self isolation? Confront the virus head on and suffer the natural occurrence of population correction like humankind has done numerous times before. There are at least 13 pandemics through history that have killed a million or more people. Is this just a modern day plague and we are fortunate enough to be living during it? In the wild population correction occurs all the time so why would humankind be any different.

Just a thought.

rfenst
Friday, April 24, 2020 4:56:39 PM

To develop herd immunity would everyone need to come out of self isolation? Confront the virus head on and suffer the natural occurrence of population correction like humankind has done numerous times before. There are at least 13 pandemics through history that have killed a million or more people. Is this just a modern day plague and we are fortunate enough to be living during it? In the wild population correction occurs all the time so why would humankind be any different.

Just a thought.

SirKnight wrote:

Yes and Yes.

izonfire
Friday, April 24, 2020 5:00:35 PM

Yes and Yes.

rfenst wrote:

Right and Wrong.

But not necessarily in that order...

MACS
Friday, April 24, 2020 5:24:30 PM
Couple more of our peeps recovered and back to work. One just loss sense of smell. The other had a low fever and congestion for a few days.
Speyside
Friday, April 24, 2020 5:39:17 PM
Glad to hear they are doing better MACS.
HockeyDad
Friday, April 24, 2020 5:41:03 PM

Couple more of our peeps recovered and back to work. One just loss sense of smell. The other had a low fever and congestion for a few days.

MACS wrote:

So they'll be listed as Covid-19 deaths?

MACS
Friday, April 24, 2020 5:57:30 PM
^Already had 2 of those... but if we extrapolate, it's still way less than we're told. (calm down, tee... they're jokes)
teedubbya
Friday, April 24, 2020 6:03:12 PM
Oh I’m calm. But I’d forgotten you’ve had a couple deaths in addition to the two vent cases. My guess is your stats are pretty much in line.

I heard that if you gargle boiling bleach you can’t get it

Brewha
Friday, April 24, 2020 8:46:19 PM
Or maybe just a real bright light....
engletl
Friday, April 24, 2020 10:15:52 PM
Just get an iv drip of uv and you will be fine

That stuff kills vampires so it must be able to handle a little virus

RMAN4443
Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:35:11 AM
^^^ well,they said it started with bats....8-[
victor809
Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:10:37 PM
Seems like herd immunity is a pretty dumb goal right now.

A quick search on the interwebs estimates a necessary 60% of people would need to get immunity to have functional herd immunity for covid.

We have less than 1MM cases right now. With 53k deaths.

For herd immunity we would literally need 200x that number of cases, and that would mean more than 200x that number of deaths. That means 10,000,000 dead to achieve herd immunity...

Just back of the napkin numbers.... But that's what you would need to sacrifice to get your 60% immunity right now.

I'd try to find a different way.... Maybe... Or don't. We can always make more people.

Odd note.... On paper we're at about 5% death rate... But thats just confirmed numbers.

Numismaniac
Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:10:40 PM
Herd immunity is a term for those that desire a BIG kill off of the human population. "Georgia Guide Stone stuff"

First thing I think of when I hear that term is what I witnessed as a young fella when "Bangs" came through our area of West TN back in the 70's. Oddly, the herd about a half mile away through the woods didn't have a SINGLE SURVIVOR!!! The guy had to leave the cows laying out in the field until the Gubmint man came to test them and then he could dispose of the carcasses.

Also when I learned about so called "cattle mutilation" and how time, critters, et al are usually the reason it appears that some surgery has been done, LMAO!

The guy worked with my Father on the RR, so we went over and walked through the foul smelling field. He saw one cow in particular and told me to watch as he kicked the cow's spine area, suddenly a 'possum ran out of the cow's butthole that had seemingly been surgically enlarged, BWAHAHAHAHAHA! That's when I learned that opossums eat about anything. They actually LOVE ticks. I saw a game camera episode where a deer was standing calmly while a possum ate the ticks off her face!!!

tonygraz
Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:43:15 PM
I heard that the WHO says there is no proof of immunity from a second infection. If that turns out to be true or partially true, herd immunity will be non-existent or only a percentage will have immunity. This is not good news and hopefully not the case.
delta1
Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:52:02 PM
we're all gonna die
Palama
Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:02:14 PM

we're all gonna die

delta1 wrote:

Immediately thought of the Country Joe McDonald song:

And it’s 1-2-3-4, whatta we fightin’ for?

I don’t give a damn, next stop is Vietnam

5-6-7-8, open them pearly gates

Whoppee we’re all gonna die

Or sumting li’ dat. :-"

HockeyDad
Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:42:15 PM
on TV right now I can chose from “San Andreas”, “deep Impact”, or “Hunger Games”.

I’m glad they’re not trying to scare us.

delta1
Saturday, April 25, 2020 4:33:02 PM
see HD? it could be worse...

tried binge watching "The Walking Dead" gave up...didn't really like the living characters much more than the zombies

Numismaniac
Saturday, April 25, 2020 4:52:28 PM
Same here, I just can't get into any of those Zombie shows. To each their own.
victor809
Saturday, April 25, 2020 5:05:29 PM
Meh. I dream of having that sort of competence in leadership during this crisis...