HockeyDad
5 years ago
An environmentalist group announced they will remove monuments dedicated to its founder and renowned conservationist, John Muir, because of his ties to white supremacists.

The Sierra Club, founded by Muir in 1892, posted a statement on its website explaining that some of its historical members were vocal advocates of white supremacy, The Hill reported.

“As defenders of Black life pull down Confederate monuments across the country, we must also take this moment to reexamine our past and our substantial role in perpetuating white supremacy,” the statement said. “It’s time to take down some of our own monuments, starting with some truth-telling about the Sierra Club’s early history.”

Despite Muir’s contributions to the nation’s conservationist movement, he had friendships with known white supremacists, like renowned paleontologist Henry Fairfield Osborn, “who worked for both the conservation of nature and the conservation of the white race,” according to the Sierra Club.

Osborn helped found the American Eugenics Society after Muir’s death, the Sierra Club said.

Muir himself made “derogatory comments about Black people and Indigenous peoples that drew on deeply harmful racist stereotypes, though his views evolved later in his life,” according to the Sierra Club.

The Sierra Club, which has 3.8 million members, also expressed concern about other early members and leaders who advocated for “forced-sterilization laws and programs” and created the Human Betterment Foundation, whose research was later used to create Nazi Germany’s eugenics legislation, the Sierra Club said.

David Starr Jordan, a “‘kingpin’ of the eugenics movement” served on the Sierra Club’s board of directors during Muir’s tenure as president, according to the Sierra Club.

“The whiteness and privilege of our early membership fed into a very dangerous idea — one that’s still circulating today,” the group said. “Such willful ignorance is what allows some people to shut their eyes to the reality that the wild places we love are also the ancestral homeland of Native peoples, forced off their lands in the decades or centuries before they became national parks.”

The Sierra Club’s decision comes as activists across the nation demand the removal of statues, monuments and school names that have ties to slavery, white supremacy and colonialism, from Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee to Christopher Columbus.

delta1
5 years ago
damn...didn't know John Muir was a white supremacist...he's widely regarded and highlighted throughout the nation's National Parks for his environmental accomplishments...guess they'll have to put asterisks next to his name on all the plaques...

lotsa whitewashing has been done in our historic accounts about important peeps in our past


somebody's gotta get busy with putting all these truths into the history books that we will use going forward, to teach our children about their country's history and the men who built it...
ZRX1200
5 years ago
So what about Planned Parenthood?
delta1
5 years ago
heard they were gonna remove the racist chick's name from their building ...prolly have to put an asterisk on all their signs and publications, like everybody else...


maybe save a bunch of money and resources by putting a disclaimer on all historic publications, facilities and signs saying our history is full of racism and otherwise bad people, and may include people who were important to this place, work, facility, etc...
ZRX1200
5 years ago
That’ll make all those former BL matter!
delta1
5 years ago
easier to move forward when you know where you've been
tamapatom
5 years ago
Maybe they should change the name of organization too. Muir undoubtedly had a secret racist meaning in mind. Suggestions?
opelmanta1900
5 years ago

damn...didn't know John Muir was a white supremacist...he's widely regarded and highlighted throughout the nation's National Parks for his environmental accomplishments...guess they'll have to put asterisks next to his name on all the plaques...

lotsa whitewashing has been done in our historic accounts about important peeps in our past


somebody's gotta get busy with putting all these truths into the history books that we will use going forward, to teach our children about their country's history and the men who built it...

delta1 wrote:


I was literally in John Muir wilderness yesterday... the many trails and lakes i frequent all have strong ties to John muir, many of the trails were blazed by the man himself... the roads I take are all managed by the Sierra club...

I had no idea the guy was racist... i don't care... all my friends are heathens...
tonygraz
5 years ago
Don't forget credit for Teddy Roosevelt who really got the National Park thing going.
Buckwheat
5 years ago
I wonder how long before they go after Henry Ford? IMO, it's justifiable. 🌫
tamapatom
5 years ago
And since Ford was friends with Thomas Edison, Edison needs to go too?
opelmanta1900
5 years ago
I'll tell you right now, electricity is definitely racist...
ZRX1200
5 years ago
Henry Ford was a crazy racist eugenics technocrat and a Nazi sympathizer.

In Edison’s defense Ford invited “great minds” to his estate for luncheon meeting as a pretty regular thing, I don’t think I ever read where there were solely “like” minds
opelmanta1900
5 years ago
If Henry Ford had designed cars to kill jews, I would say we should stop driving them...
opelmanta1900
5 years ago
Margaret Sanger designed planned parenthood to destroy the black family...
victor809
5 years ago

If Henry Ford had designed cars to kill jews, I would say we should stop driving them...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



.... that seems like a poorly thought out take.

Lots of stuff was developed either specifically to harm, or developed by harming, specific groups of people.

We don't throw out the tech. We acknowledge the malfeasance of those who did bad things and avoid venerating them (where we haven't rewritten history). When we identify areas where history was glossed over, we rectify that, by no longer venerating whoever was "whitewashed".

This isn't rocket science. And it appears Sierra Club and Planned Parenthood are going about it in a smart manner.
opelmanta1900
5 years ago
planned parenthood is still using the product designed to kill blacks to kill blacks.. if you think that's smart you're racist....
tonygraz
5 years ago
If you think abortion was designed to kill blacks, you must think that it wasn't a voluntary procedure.
ZRX1200
5 years ago
If you think abortion, and what Margaret Sanger did are identical you are following a basic logical train of conversation here Tony.
victor809
5 years ago

planned parenthood is still using the product designed to kill blacks to kill blacks.. if you think that's smart you're racist....

opelmanta1900 wrote:



Um. First off... funny thing... no babies have ever been killed by abortion.

Second, it's a voluntary procedure willingly performed on the only person who's point of view matters. So... kinda irrelevant whether the originator of the procedure, or even the doctor specifically performing that procedure has any negative views on the race of the person it's performed on.

As long as black women are given the same quality of medical procedure and care as white, asian or latina women are, then the procedure itself is not racist.
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