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Speyside
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5 years ago

#61

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

frankj1
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5 years ago

#62

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

the quote in question is shown here in context of a larger vision that one may or may not support.
But anyone who thinks the cause was good and then quickly morphed may not be aware of how long ago the origin began.

Sort of like "it takes a village..." I'm not sure the words in context mean what either side of this infers.
Did anyone think it takes a village meant to literally remove children from their homes and have every adult in the village raise them in warehouses? It's more conceptual, it's not a concrete thought.
We do all have input on others, we do all impact others, especially on developing children.

DrMaddVibe
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5 years ago

#63

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

What We Believe

Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.

Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.

Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of his killer, George Zimmerman, and inspired by the 31-day takeover of the Florida State Capitol by POWER U and the Dream Defenders, we took to the streets. A year later, we set out together on the Black Lives Matter Freedom Ride to Ferguson, in search of justice for Mike Brown and all of those who have been torn apart by state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Forever changed, we returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many.

Ferguson helped to catalyze a movement to which we’ve all helped give life. Organizers who call this network home have ousted anti-Black politicians, won critical legislation to benefit Black lives, and changed the terms of the debate on Blackness around the world. Through movement and relationship building, we have also helped catalyze other movements and shifted culture with an eye toward the dangerous impacts of anti-Blackness.

These are the results of our collective efforts.

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.

Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.

We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.

We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.

We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.

We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.

We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.

We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.[/i]

Anyone following this lunacy is a complete and abject moron. Follow the money and it's virtually a DNC piggybank. If you think for one second you're supporting some cause, you are...a terrorist cause that wants to rip down the framework of our country. Get your minds right, because this crap...it will NEVER end well.

rfenst
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5 years ago

#64

OK.
Do you have any "wiggle" room?

Edited by user 5 years ago | Reason: Not specified

DrMaddVibe
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5 years ago

#65

With the above proclamation of theirs?

No. None.

I read somewhere some said that if you have to have a color in front of Lives Matter, you're a racist. I agree with that.

Look at all the violence this organization has caused because their patron Trayvon Martin's death. You of all people know that once the facts came out in court there was never going to be anything but a Not Guilty verdict. Same for the other case they want to uphold. They're taking violent criminals and putting them on pedestals. When their street court falls apart in the real courts they riot, burn cities and kill people. I'm not glorifying that in any way, shape or form.

The minute the riots started they lost all credibility. All of it.

rfenst
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5 years ago

#66

DMV,
I was only joking around.
Perhaps I should have used the sarcasm emoji...

DrMaddVibe
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5 years ago

#67

DMV,
I was only joking around.
Perhaps I should have used the sarcasm emoji...

rfenst wrote:

Yeah...without it...it gets lost in this medium.

But this "movement" is akin to a large temper tantrum. The parent should NEVER give in to the kids selfish demands. With demands like these? We're dealing with insanity. This is America not the USSR.

Speyside
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5 years ago

#68

[frypan]

Let's fix the problem for ALL Americans. It is an ongoing cycle of oppression that hurts people of all skin colors. Welfare is the problem, it's chains never let go. They need good schools and good trade schools. They need good medical services. They need a path to a decent to great job they can believe in. Drug dealers and gang bangers need the death penalty. They need a changed policing model. When it comes to violent crime policing should be just the beginning of harsh treatment. The neighborhood of good people there they need to be treated better
And so much more.

xibbumbero
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#69

It's been 2 months.

What's your end game?

Time to talk like adults? Or just keep burning sh*t?

Your call.

tailgater wrote:

My call is,it's the left protesting peacefully and the right burning chit to make the left look bad and give trump one more thing to rant on about,blaming Antifa and all the Democrats that have ever lived. X 😳

deadeyedick
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5 years ago

#70

xibbumbero wrote:

Told ya it was the boogaloo movement.

borndead1
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5 years ago

#71

Protesters are protesting. Looters are looting.

I don't see the big issue with BLM. Black people are disproportionately harassed and killed by cops. They want it to stop.

I find it interesting that a lot of the people who don't want all cops to be judged by a few bad actors are all too willing to toss that principle aside when it comes to any cause seen as liberal or leftist.

xibbumbero
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5 years ago

#72

Told ya it was the boogaloo movement.

deadeyedick wrote:

Hey,You old fart,you haven't done the Electric Boogaloo since the 70's. X 😳

ZRX1200
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5 years ago

#73

X it ain’t the right burning 💩in Portland at the Hatfield courthouse.

frankj1
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5 years ago

#74

borndead1 wrote:

yes

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

5 years ago

#75

Short bus, if you remove (or disrupt) a requirement for something, you are not disrupting the thing. Just the requirement.

If I disrupt the requirement for seatbelts, I'm not forcing you not to wear a seatbelt. That makes a seatbelt a "if you choose or not".

I know you aren't smart enough to understand this. I know you're going to pretend it means something different. Because you can't help it. Black people are demanding something. You must act against it, no matter how dumb you sound when you do.

victor809 wrote:

You say the words. And you think they make sense. So you believe them.

Poor, stupid vic.

Speyside
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5 years ago

#76

Where is the wrong in black people demanding to be treated the same as white people? And don't hide behind the rioting and looting, we both know that is wrong. It seems to me many people are hiding behind the rioting and looting and not addressing a valid demand. Nore am I interested in the BLM manifesto. I am only interested in ending a insidious wrong that has always been part of America.

victor809
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5 years ago

#77

No you're not.

It's clear by your choice to purposely misinterpret some random line in the BLM website and use it as justification to say "oh, I'd totally support black rights... If they just would ask for them in the specific way I see as appropriate"

My words are logical. Your inability to understand them demonstrates why I think you're a disgusting person.

edit - for 95

Edited by user 5 years ago | Reason: Not specified

BuckyB93
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5 years ago

#78

Victor is so wicked smart he can tell you what you are thinking and what you mean when you say things.

Sure is nice to have a resident troll around with Vulcan mind meld abilities to explain things for us

victor809
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5 years ago

#79

A preponderance of evidence.

Dude says or acts a certain way enough times and you can start to get a picture for what is driving it
Not rocket surgery.

BuckyB93
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5 years ago

#80

Kinda like a certain troll on these boards? One that's been banned more times than any other individual here?

Someone who needs the attention so much that he had to keep creating different screen names under different e-mail addys?

Someone who needed the attention so much that he used credit card number generators to get fake credit card numbers so he could make another login name so he could get back in. You mean someone like that?

Yeah, I think most get the picture of what's driving you.

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