I'm telling Nurse Cratchit.

So has there been any mRNA vaccines approved for human use prior to this pandemic, and if so, for what virus?

OH! OHH! OHHH!!

Um... none Mr. Kotter.

The wrong question is being asked and answered. It’s out there easily obtainable but it’s fun to watch the nonsense.

Otherwise, people would be able to easily ID me as the one beating up Delta...

I don’t wear a mask at this point unless it’s out of respect for places that require it. Their place their rules. If I had not been vaccinated yet for whatever reason I’d wear it everywhere still.

The truth is out there folks. Don’t get lost in the mire. Go look at the development and breakthroughs on this and what they mean. Look at the timeline attached to them. Look at the study of the components, each and every one. Look at the human studies for different viruses and the animal trials prior to them. Understand what has been forever changed by the research and what it means. Look particularly at what it means for present and future development for new viruses in terms of timelines. We were fortunate this is and was available.

This wasn’t developed yesterday. Of course pandemics don’t come around every day. Good thing folks in the field don’t wait and have been thinking and preparing for this for a long time. To quote a great man, “who knew?” Lots of people knew and have been preparing for such an occasion for some time. Good thing.

Much like preparing for war, being prepared doesn’t guarantee quick victory but being unprepared or having weak or poor leadership can pretty much guarantee a longer war or certain defeat. Unfortunately much of the war planning that I had first hand experience and contribution to was tossed aside because of politics. Anything that occurred previously in any other administration Republican or Democrat was bad. Never seen anything like it. While the planning was ignored and actively knee capped by the admin parts were repackaged and sold as their own so all wasn’t lost with the exception of time and impact.

And the misinformation continues. It’s frustrating.

LOL!

I guess you had more intel than the great Dr. Fauci himself. He of the ever present smirk whenever Trump claimed the vaccine would be here before year's end.

How prophetic it happened in the year 2020.

Because hindsight is your greatest asset.

Sure, I'm not on the insider's club like you are. With your "pioneer" friend list.

But I know what went down during this pandemic. You're so caught up in how it played out, how the models were accurate, how you are closer to this issue than all us peons, that you fail to see what's in front of your face.

You didn't chime in last July and say that a vaccine was a mere 6 weeks from development. No. You waited until it was accomplished and then claimed you knew all along.

Bucky asked a very simple question.

You've tried to belittle him and have done everything but answer it.

The mRNA technology is astounding. We're safer because of it.

But we don't know long term effects on humans. Because we are the test subjects.

If this isn't true then I'm happy to learn otherwise.

I said earlier there have been human trials of the tech previously over years on at least 6 other viruses (7 with covid). 4 are pretty well documented. If you are happy to learn go learn instead of doubting everything I say. It’s easily found less easily truly understood.

I don’t have the benefit of hindsight. I have to daily dog in, get up to date and lead.

Tail it’s the last I’ll reply to you. You have no clue, don’t have a real desire to learn, discount things folks that know more than you tell you and tend to tear down rather than build up. You are highly uneducated on this issue to the point you miss the obvious in front of you while thinking you are making intelligent points. You are not.

I only happened to see your comment on mobile. Your value on this subject has long ago been determined as null. I’ve just chosen to let you be rather than punch down.

TW loves him some TW.

You're talking out of both ends. First you marvel at your "pioneer" friends who invented a six week solution. Now you defer to staggeringly long timelines because of mass production, etc.

Operation Warp Speed was all about the mass production. Big Pharm was able to make the vaccine while testing was still in process. The things you say make it obvious you don't understand that.

You were asked very direct questions and you repeatedly deflected them in and attempt to boost your social media status. That makes you a world class douche bag. Why not just name one of the 4 "well documented" studies rather than belittle the person asking a question. You'd rather call someone ignorant than offer your supposed breadth of knowledge. Again: douche bag.

I think you were more endearing when all you did was sit on the fence post. Your new-found self importance is just pathetic.

This might be the saddest post in the history of CBid forums.