Gene363
Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:00:14 PM

I think I'm going Google. Reviews are kind of neck and neck but Google seems to have better voice recognition commands and deeper resources (tap into Google maps and web stuff). Plus my phones are Android so Google might make sense there.

Amazon won't let me buy a Google hub thingy though. Prolly pick one up at the local funny farm (Walmart) if they have a Google mini thingy in stock. Looks like many of the wizy-ma-jigs are both Google and Amazon compatible so either will work from that standpoint.

BuckyB93 wrote:

Walmart has a pretty good online ordering site, often with free delivery or delivery to a local store.

izonfire
Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:18:26 PM

My elderly mother wants to set up a few Alexa around her house so that if she fall and can't get up, all she has to do is call out for help. Any thoughts on this?

rfenst wrote:

Alexa won’t help her to get up.

Matter of fact,

she’ll probably mock her while she lays helplessly on the floor...

ZRX1200
Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:39:21 PM
Alexa play
fourfear
Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:52:16 PM

My elderly mother wants to set up a few Alexa around her house so that if she fall and can't get up, all she has to do is call out for help. Any thoughts on this?

rfenst wrote:

It's worth a try.

BuckyB93
Thursday, May 27, 2021 2:35:18 PM
I think both allow you to make phone calls via voice commands from an established contacts list including 911.

As for a music library, Google owns YouTube so they use that for their music database and, If I understand it, you can upload/setup your own playlists.

About $40 for a mini Google nest. I've wasted more than $40 on stupider $hit.

Re: privacy, I'm aware of the trems and conditions and what is shared and stored. I'm not too worried if they track what music I listen too. I've found some stuff that I'd normally not run into if they didn't suggest it based on my likes. Netflix, Hulu, Prime do it all the time with what I stream and watch. If my location is of concern, junk mail already knows where to find me and I used to be in the phone book when I had a landline.

Anyone can already Google me if they so desire. There's a ton of publicly available stuff out there with a LinkedIn account, property purchases and sales, blah blah, blah.

Stogie1020
Thursday, May 27, 2021 3:04:28 PM
We got a smart thermostat when we replaced our AC system and it has Alexa built in. It's fun, but we rarely use it.
delta1
Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:02:32 PM
we got a Hey Google thingy a couple years ago, from DIL for Xmas... and used it mostly to play music on command....we had already installed smart switches with timers to turn on and off the exterior garage and driveway lights and the front family room light...it woulda cost us some money to retrofit light switches and outlets to smart ones to work with Hey Google..

I realized that it's prolly healthier for two past middle-aged, somewhat plump peeps to get off their azzes every once in while to turn something on and off...

the poor Hey Google thingy just sits in a cabinet now...it did have decent sound quality for its size...

frankj1
Thursday, May 27, 2021 10:45:02 PM
I miss my flip phone.
opelmanta1900
Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:16:06 PM

we got a Hey Google thingy a couple years ago, from DIL for Xmas... and used it mostly to play music on command....we had already installed smart switches with timers to turn on and off the exterior garage and driveway lights and the front family room light...it woulda cost us some money to retrofit light switches and outlets to smart ones to work with Hey Google..

I realized that it's prolly healthier for two past middle-aged, somewhat plump peeps to get off their azzes every once in while to turn something on and off...

the poor Hey Google thingy just sits in a cabinet now...it did have decent sound quality for its size...

delta1 wrote:

You know if you get several you can make house-wide announcements... seems like you could get a lot of fun out of the hijinks that would ensue from such power....

BuckyB93
Friday, May 28, 2021 12:55:36 AM
I went with the Google mini nest. Easy to set up and use. Playing the Beastie Boys right now off of YouTube music. The speaker can get loud enough for a bedroom (actually louder than I expected) for a small puck but it's not going to rattle the windows. A little short on the highs but whatya expect for $50. I think a set of bluetooth speakers or sumptin will be the next thing on the list to add.

A buddy I work with has his whole shack smartified: Google nest, lights, fans, door locks, Roomba vacuum thingy, iRobot floor moping thingy and on and on (the kid's got too much money burning a hole in his pocket). He gave me a tutorial of all the $hit he has hooked up and that can be accessed from voice commands to his cell phone.

From now on when I walk by him I'm going to start to say things like "Hey Google, tell Roomba to vacuum the bedroom. Hey Google, unlock the door. Hey Google, mop the floor. Hey Google, turn on the kitchen lights..."

Oh boy, this is going to be fun. He's going to have to shut off his phone when I'm around since I'm totally gonna #uck with his $hit.

8trackdisco
Friday, May 28, 2021 7:32:44 AM

Any of you old farts use Amazon Alexa or Google Home at your shack?

I know this is the wrong forum and even the wrong audience since most of youze are still trying to decide if it's time to give up your flip phone but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Part of my current edumacation has got me thinkin' 'bout gettin' one of these new fangled do-hikies. Seems like it's the new thing all the kids are doing and I shud prolly learn 'em. I've faked my way so far but a bunch of my classes are about IoT, AI, cloud $hit stuff, and stuff... yet I ain't gots one in my shack.

Any advice? I'm leaning to the Google Assistant but I also have Amazon Prime and Music which kinda puts me in the Alexa corner too. What do you use (if you use any)? Looking for real world pros and cons from real world losers & users.

So any advice other than don't test an active electric outlet with a butter knife or try to shoot a raccoon when riding shotgun in a gocart?

Disclaimer: Let's put the "big brother" thing aside, that's a bigger topic all on it's own. I PM'ed RAM and Whistle but they couldn't help... neither of the mentioned home assistant's have the ability to change old fart diapers.

BuckyB93 wrote:

Won’t go Big Brother much.

Simply put, enough of our privacy is being taken away and being sold. I’m not going to contribute to their cause. Listened to Edward Snowden on the Rogan podcast. We might be screwed either way with our current addiction to gadgets and sloth.

8trackdisco
Friday, May 28, 2021 7:33:53 AM

Can’t help. I thought this thread was about getting fingered.

teedubbya wrote:

(Chuckle)

Gene363
Friday, May 28, 2021 11:44:06 AM
This Faceless cartoon goes with this thread:

https://www.faceless.co.za/read_fl.asp?rated=1&pass_num=1917 

delta1
Friday, May 28, 2021 7:38:22 PM

I miss my flip phone.

frankj1 wrote:

they're coming back, ya know...bettern before, they say...

BuckyB93
Monday, May 31, 2021 5:19:04 AM
Bluetooth speakers are due it today (not sure if they deliver on the holiday though).

Tried to fark with my buddies smart home thingy with his cell phone but it won't recognize my voice for commands.

izonfire
Monday, May 31, 2021 5:21:23 AM
My nads could use a digital assistant about now...
BuckyB93
Monday, May 31, 2021 5:24:57 AM
Return to forum without posting
izonfire
Monday, May 31, 2021 5:25:56 AM
=p~
Gene363
Monday, May 31, 2021 8:08:26 AM
Amazon’s Sidewalk Will Soon Share Your Internet With Your Neighbors

Amazon Sidewalk is still an experiment but that experiment is set to go live in the US on June 8. Not only are all Amazon Echo and Ring devices eligible, they are actually enrolled by default. Users will have to explicitly change their settings to opt-out and Amazon is probably hoping that they will also fall back on their default behavior of not changing default settings anyway.

If you have the newer devices that support this I'd turn it off or the FBI might smash your doors and arrest you because a neighboor is downloading kiddie porn.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=GRGWE27XHZPRPBGX 

https://hackaday.com/2020/11/30/amazon-sidewalk-should-you-be-co-opted-into-a-private-neighbourhood-lora-network/ 

https://www.wired.com/story/how-amazon-sidewalk-works/ 

https://www.ghacks.net/2021/05/30/if-you-dont-want-amazon-devices-to-share-your-bandwidth-with-your-neighbors-you-need-to-opt-out/