Nope, you really are dense.
The fact that you know things to be true in a dog it self proves there's a creator.

No one has to be taught there's a creator.
It's like teaching someone there's a nose on their face.

Superfluous

However, one must decieve oneself through sin into denying the Creator.

Dg west deptford wrote:

Nope, you really are dense.
The fact that you know things to be true in a dog it self proves there's a creator.

No one has to be taught there's a creator.
It's like teaching someone there's a nose on their face.

Superfluous

However, one must decieve oneself through sin into denying the Creator.

Dg west deptford wrote:

But, the sinners have so much more fun!

drglnc wrote:

It is true that there is pleasure in sin for a season, but the wages of sin is death.
Also he who sins is the slave to sin. Some slave masters are more fun than others but in the end they all suck compared to freedom.
So saying sinners have more fun is relative to the end of the matter.
Delayed gratification I find to be superior in every sense.

"There are pleasures at His right hand forevermore"

The immature, vulgar kids will have fun with that verse but the truth is, the righteous have more fun than should be allowed
🍺

Dg west deptford wrote:

One would have to believe in the "Forevermore" for that to matter... I will take my sins now over some unseen/unproven/unknown "pleasure" in the future...

drglnc wrote:

You are so squirmy.
So now you're not an atheist?

Do you even understand what the word hypothesis means?
If so how can one believe in a hypothesis?
Maybe you don't understand what the word believe means.

You don't present as very bright.

Are you high or on drugs or something?

Dg west deptford wrote:

So yer a slave to sin? That explains a lot about you being a progressive Democrat.

RayR wrote:

One would have to believe in "sin" to even debate or believe in the ability to be a "slave" to it... It is pretty cute that you connect "Sin" with being a progressive democrat... shall we bother listing the documented "sins" of Republican's or just the last one to hold the office of President?

As a reformed Catholic i will leave you with John 8:7

drglnc wrote:

One would have to believe in "sin" to even debate or believe in the ability to be a "slave" to it... It is pretty cute that you connect "Sin" with being a progressive democrat... shall we bother listing the documented "sins" of Republican's or just the last one to hold the office of President?

As a reformed Catholic i will leave you with John 8:7

drglnc wrote:

Oh please do list the sins of the Republicans, that's always fun. No doubt they will be progressive sins too.
Every potential or actual threat to liberty has resulted directly from progressive policies of the left or the right.
Neither sinner should throw stones at the other when they are guilty of the same sins themselves.

RayR wrote:

cliff notes:

even the most right leaning people, if they happen to agree an iota with any utterance by a liberal, gets assigned to the satan-worshipping/pedophile/cannibal/commie/shape-shifting lizard people/Devil incarnate pile by rayr for eternity.

Either all in, or worthless garbage.
There are no shades of gray.
There is no possibility of compromise.
Everyone is wrong, including many known Libertarians not in line with the Lew Rockwell fringe wing of this mostly innocuous and anonymous political belief system/Political Party.

The intolerance and put downs of dissent are far closer to far right fascism (though he'll explain why even Nazis were really commies, despite Stalin's difficulty with several million dead Russians) than the same ugliness of leftist extremism...but all Evil springs from just inside far right all the way past center, left of center and beyond, so all not in are on the left.

It's a closed loop. No longer worth it.

frankj1 wrote:

Yet you can't prove it, at least according to Godel who I happen to agree with. Yet many of us know 1+1=2. It all comes back to energy. It cannot be proven that the energy was mindless/random or conscious. You know it was random, others know it was concious. Do not make the mistake of believing what you cannot prove is absolute. If you would, please specifically direct your next post towards specifically what I stated here. Thank you. I am neither saying you are correct or incorrect. We could talk about multiverse, or faster than the speed of light, and so on yet still which energy is not provable. BTW, your advanced alien child is conceptually interesting.

Speyside wrote:

I'm not the one that implied "Sins" were tied to a specific political party... that was you... shall we start with Trump then since you think only Dems commit "Sins"?


You asked for a list of "sins of the republicans" how about just the one that is currently considered the front runner/leaser of the Party... i will even stick to the big ones... you know, the 10 Commandments... i could probably find examples for all 10 but these are just off the top of my head...

“I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any gods before Me.” which includes "shall not make for yourself any graven image" He has spent his entire adult hood violating this one...

“Thou shalt not commit adultery.” i mean... take your pick...

“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” How many verifiable lies did he tell just since getting into politics?

“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.” LONG history of eminent domain abuse...

drglnc wrote:

I'm well aware of Trumps progressive, therefore sinful side, but I was expecting more meat from you other than just some vague assertions as to his personal violations of the 10 Commandments.

I'm talking about his real sins as a politician, sins that no left-progressive if they even comprehend them likes to bring into the light because it would then damn their side 100 fold. Therefore crickets from the lefties. Chirp, Chirp, Chirp 🐜🐜🐜🐜

Now see David Stockman, for example, he's a steamroller. He knows how to do it, he doesn't care, left, right or center. None of that silly TDS nonsense.

Orange Man Gone
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/01/david-stockman/orange-man-gone/ 

RayR wrote:

Dogma?
Defense of truth, knowledge & logic is dogma?
Ok
Don't believe "my dogma" that's your choice.
Appearantly you threw out truth, knowledge & logic long ago.
Just don't make any knowledge claims with me. As your not even certain 1+1=2 so again try to enjoy your illogical simulation life.

I'm not in this thread casting stones or politicking, just encouraging faith in order to rescue reason from the God haters & deniers.
I appreciate my global citizen friends as much as I do my fellow Americans.
Neither here nor there for me, just want to be a blessing.
We can agree to disagree on anything.
I will however call bull pucky when I see it.
The OP here is utter bull pucky for foolish truth deniers.
Nevertheless thanks to my friend Pinky for listening to me

Dg west deptford wrote:

You see Pinky, Atheism reduces a man to absurdlty.

"The fool says in his heart there's no God"

"they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools,..."

You try to enjoy your simulation now.

Dg west deptford wrote: