New Epiphany on Religion · Page 5

According to Webster it is... I mean... we do have to define our words right?

From Webster:
firm belief in something for which there is no proof

If there is no proof, then there is no logical path to get to the target from an initial configuration.

So yeah... according to our definitions... it is a true statement.

Why don't you try getting rid of the "absolutely", and try starting with things that are "generally" true.

That's why you're not getting anywhere with anyone...

You're needlessly holding on to an infinity in your arguments... either explain the infinity or ditch it.

RayR
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5 years ago

#83

You are the one that made "vague assertions" (read: asinine claims) that somehow Sin is tied to political beliefs... again that wasn't me... you don't get to take what i said and deflect after attempting to take some bull**** moral high ground about a claimed lack of "SIN" by republicans while attempting to define your own version of sin and attribute any "sin" you admit they committed to being part of a "progressive" side...

My comments had nothing to do with trump specifically until YOU asked for an example... Since he is the leader of the republican party i though what better example to use... we could have gone with Rudy Giuliani, Amy Kock, David Vitter, Newt Gingrich, Vance McAllister ... just to name a few...

Guess all those alter boy diddler priests are progresive democrat's as well huh?

drglnc wrote:

No, sin (evil) is tied to political beliefs. See the sordid history of the left as a shining example.

I didn't ask a specific example or Trump for that matter, you picked him to start with. You could have brought up any Republican, from Lincoln onward.

drglnc
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5 years ago

#84

You asked me to list republican sins… I started with the most recent and current leader of the Republican Party… you can lie even though all one needs do is scroll up to see you DID ask for examples ( lying is a sin by the way…) and talk in circles all you want…

Brewha
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5 years ago

#85

bgz wrote:

Would you agree that one mans truth is another man’s folly?

If you do, we learn something about the nature of “truth”.

Brewha
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5 years ago

#86

Some would point out that there are 4 types of “truth”:

Objective Truth is what exists and can be proved in this physicality. (The sun moves across the sky each day.)

Normative Truth is what we, as a group, agree is true. (English speakers agreed to use the word day to name that time when the sky is lit by the sun.)

Subjective Truth is how the individual sees or experiences the world. (Today is a good day for me.)

Complex Truth recognizes the validity of all those truths and allows you to focus on the one is most useful at any given time. (The sun is up; the day is bright. Today is a good day for MOM, so lets take advantage of that and ask for ice cream for dinner.)

Dg west deptford
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5 years ago

#87

Any knowledge claim by an atheist is contradictory.
An atheist can't know anything.
Has anyone else noticed how pinky squirms when I confront him with invariant immaterial laws?

I do not say that professed unbelievers do not prove things. The argument is that you must borrow from the Biblical worldview, & the God who makes universal, immaterial, invariant laws possible in order to prove anything.

This type of logical proof deals with “transcendentals” or “necessary starting points,” and is called a “transcendental proof.” Any contrary view to the God of the bible being the necessary starting point for rationality is reduced to absurdity. You have to assume God, in order to argue against Him.
My faith has proof Pinky. Your's doesn't but mine does.
I have evidence & repeatable observable substance.
Transcendental as it may be, none the less your ability to know anything depends upon my faith.

Brewha
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5 years ago

#88

Dg west deptford wrote:

Stephen Hawking was an atheist.
Don’t think he needed deity’s to prove anything.

See this is that third and fourth type of truth I was talking about.

Btw, apparent absurdity is typically a lack of understanding the reality.
No, I did not make that up.

teedubbya
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5 years ago

#89

I’m thinking of becoming an Episcopalian but as much as I like fish I’d still need to mix some chicken in and stuff 😟

Abrignac
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5 years ago

#90

Dg west deptford wrote:

1) Your debating skills are severely lacking. Name calling is the first indicator that BS is about to follow.
2) Do you actually proofread your posts before sending them? If you did you would realize just how much you contradict yourself.
3) Do you think anyone here really GAF about your proselytizing? If so, don’t you think they would toss you a life line?
4) Do you have nothing better to do than make an a$$ out of yourself on a discount cigar forum?

bgz
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5 years ago

#91

Dg west deptford wrote:

Others have already beat you up on this one...

I'm just going to end with this.

You're simply not qualified to debate me.

Smooth light
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5 years ago

#92

We are all fishes of reality, swimming in the cosmic menstrual flow of life.
Some are after-birth, burning in HELL. Others are God's children that live forevermore.

You make the choice, that's God's will and good pleasure.

CelticBomber
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5 years ago

#93

Smooth light wrote:

Axl wrote that...

Brewha
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5 years ago

#94

Axl wrote that...

CelticBomber wrote:

God bless Axl.

Speyside
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5 years ago

#95

Onward, Christian soldiers
Marching as to war
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before

Christ the royal master
Leads against the foe
Forward into battle
See His banners go

Onward, Christian soldiers
Marching as to war
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before

At the sign of triumph
Satan's host doth flee;
On, then, Christian soldiers
On to victory

Hell's foundations quiver
At the shout of praise;
Brothers, lift your voices
Loud your anthems raise

Onward, Christian soldiers
Marching as to war
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before

Like a mighty army
Moves the Church of God;
Brothers, we are treading
Where the Saints have trod

We are not divided;
All one body we:
One in hope and doctrine
One in charity

Onward, Christian soldiers
Marching as to war
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before

Onward then, ye people
Join our happy throng
Blend with ours your voices
In our triumph song

Crowns and Thrones may perish
Kingdoms rise and wane
But the cross of Jesus
Constant will remain

Onward, Christian soldiers
Marching as to war
With the cross of Jesus
Going on before

Speyside
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5 years ago

#96

Amazing grace
How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost, but now I'm found
Was blind, but now I see
'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear
And grace my fears relieved
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed
My chains are gone
I've been set free
My God, my Savior has ransomed me
And like a flood, His mercy rains
Unending love, Amazing grace
The Lord has promised good to me
His word my hope secures
He will my shield and portion be
As long as life endures
My chains are gone
I've been set free (been set free)
My God, my Savior has ransomed me (ransomed me)
And like a flood (like a flood) His mercy rains (mercy rains)
Unending love, oh, Amazing grace
The Earth shall soon dissolve like snow
The sun forbear to shine
But God, Who called me here below
Will be forever mine
My chains are gone
I've been set free
My God, my Savior has ransomed me
And like a flood, His mercy rains
Unending love, Amazing grace (grace)
I once was lost, but now I'm found
Was blind (was blind), but now (but now) I see

Speyside
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5 years ago

#97

Ave Maria Gratia plena
Maria Gratia plena
Maria Gratia plena
Ave, ave dominus
Dominus tecum

Benedicta tu in mulieribus
Et benedictus
Et benedictus fructus ventris
Ventris tui Jesus

Ave Maria
Ave Maria Mater dei
Ora pro nobis pecatoribus
Ora, ora pro nobis
Ora ora pro nobis pecatoribus

Nunc et in hora mortis
In hora mortis, mortis nostrae
In hora mortis nostrae
Ave Maria!

Smooth light
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5 years ago

#98

Oh happy day
When Jesus wash my sins away
He taught me how, live and pray
every day

Oh happy day
When Jesus wash, oh when he wash, my sins away
I live to praise him every day

Oh when he wash, when he wash
My sins away

Oh happy day
Oh happy day

drglnc
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5 years ago

#99

Christians have their hymns and pages,
Hava Nagila's for the Jews,
Baptists have the rock of ages,
Atheists just sing the blues.

Romantics play Claire de Lune,
Born agains sing "He is risen, "
But no one ever wrote a tune,
For godless existentialism.

For Atheists there's no good news. They'll never sing a song of faith.
In their songs they have a rule: the "he" is always lowercase.
The "he" is always lowercase.

Some folks sing a Bach cantata,
Lutherans get Christmas trees,
Atheist songs add up to nada,
But they do have Sundays free.

Pentecostals sing to heaven,
Coptics have the books of scrolls,
Numerologists can count to seven,
Atheists have rock and roll.

For Atheists there's no good news. They'll never sing a song of faith.
In their songs they have a rule: the "he" is always lowercase.
The "he" is always lowercase.

Atheists don't have no songs.

Christians have their hymns and pages,
Hava Nagila's for the Jews,
Baptists have the rock of ages,
Atheists just sing the blues.

Catholics dress up for Mass,
And listen to, Gregorian chants.
Atheists just take a pass, Watch football in their underpants.
Watch football in their underpants.

Atheists don't have no songs.

Dg west deptford
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5 years ago

#100

Some one once said to me "you praise God too much. Why do you always feel the need to praise God?"
I said, Practicing for heaven. You oughta start screaming in agony.
We laughed.
He was soon baptized. True story.

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