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Tuesday, September 7, 2021 8:52:36 AM
Marijuana ‘SuperStore’ revealed for Orlando

DeLand lands another weed company’s Florida HQ

Orlando Sentinel

The medical marijuana business is growing in Central Florida as one company plans to open a “SuperStore” in Orlando and another is planting its Florida headquarters in nearby DeLand.

Planet 13, which has dispensaries in California and Las Vegas, revealed in a news release Wednesday it is purchasing for $55 million a license to operate as a medical marijuana treatment center in Florida from a subsidiary of Harvest Health & Recreation Inc.

The deal was only for the license issued by the Florida Department of Health and not any other assets such as facilities. Harvest Health & Recreation Inc. also announced on its website it was divesting the Florida license.

Only 22 companies have the licenses in Florida, where medical marijuana businesses must be vertically integrated, handling the product from cultivation to sale.

The release indicated what Planet 13 calls a “SuperStore” could eventually come to Orlando.

“We are well-capitalized to complete the initial buildout of our cultivation and retail plan, which includes a network of neighborhood stores in priority metro areas to support future SuperStores in Miami, Orlando, and other tourist destinations,” Co-CEO Bob Groesbeck said in the release.

Planet 13's website touts its Las Vegas dispensary as “the world’s largest cannabis store” that offers interactive entertainment along with marijuana, which is legal for recreational use in Nevada and California.

Elsewhere in Central Florida, the city of DeLand revealed this week that Cookies, which launched in California in 2012, would grow and distribute its medical marijuana offerings from the Volusia County city. It already has its Florida license and about 40 locations worldwide.

The company has started operating out of an industrial park at the DeLand Municipal Airport off International Speedway Boulevard where it is renovating buildings and has plans to eventually construct more, according to vice president of construction Jon-Luca Del Fante.

The company anticipates growing its employment in DeLand to 400 to 500 people in the next 18 to 24 months, Del Fante said.Dispensaries are expected to open in the first part of next year.

“We will see them across the state,” Del Fante said.

Cookies could get about $1 million in state tax incentives for environmental remediation, according to DeLand economic development manager Nick Conte and city spokesman Chris Graham.

The moves come as the number of medical marijuana patients in Florida is growing. The state had 603,310 qualified patients as of Aug. 27, up from 404,780 around the same time last year, according to the Office of Medical Marijuana Use.

Sanctuary Medicinals, which has an Apopka marijuana cultivation facility, opened its first dispensary in the state this year.

It appears to me like they are getting into the medical side of things to be ready for full legalization...

DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 8:56:46 AM
It was ALWAYS going to be recreational...the up-tights in Tallahassee would NEVER go along with it initially.
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Tuesday, September 7, 2021 4:11:10 PM

It was ALWAYS going to be recreational...the up-tights in Tallahassee would NEVER go along with it initially.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

They are more likely now, than ever before because of the tax revenue it generates. Besides, I think it will be de-scheduled federally basis with a few more years, starting with MMJ and then progressing.

Meanwhile, I have a t/c with my pain doctor for a recommendation for MMJ and the name of a "real" MMJ doctor- who will be able to teach me better methods and routes of administration, and safer and accurate dosing (as opposed to just smoking it). I am hoping a low dose edible will do the trick without getting me too high to function. Could just go get the MMJ card anywhere, anytime, but as long as I am doing it- I want to do it right... and get off anti-inflammatories and muscle relaxants.

tonygraz
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 5:27:43 PM
Stetson U should be demonstrating for it.
BuckyB93
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 6:52:30 PM
My town has one pot shop and another coming in, I think, next year. Construction is on going for a little strip mall that will have a Starbucks, an Edward Jones (financial planning) office, a rumored 2nd pot shop and a couple other TBD businesses in it.

Town population of about 21,000. Taxes on pot here is about 20% - 6.25% state sales tax, 10.75% marijuana excise tax, 3% town marijuana tax.

After the first 4 months of the first shop opening in 2019, the town collected about $50k in sales tax and another $15k in "host agreement" payments (whatever that is).

I'm all for legalizing it and taxing it. The problem I have is in our town, I think, the taxes collected from this source goes into a discretionary spending fund (slush) rather than being targeted for something like downtown business redevelopment or the schools/education.

frankj1
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 7:22:30 PM

My town has one pot shop and another coming in, I think, next year. Construction is on going for a little strip mall that will have a Starbucks, an Edward Jones (financial planning) office, a rumored 2nd pot shop and a couple other TBD businesses in it.

Town population of about 21,000. Taxes on pot here is about 20% - 6.25% state sales tax, 10.75% marijuana excise tax, 3% town marijuana tax.

After the first 4 months of the first shop opening in 2019, the town collected about $50k in sales tax and another $15k in "host agreement" payments (whatever that is).

I'm all for legalizing it and taxing it. The problem I have is in our town, I think, the taxes collected from this source goes into a discretionary spending fund (slush) rather than being targeted for something like downtown business redevelopment or the schools/education.

BuckyB93 wrote:

or addiction treatment for the killer drugs?

MACS
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 7:33:54 PM
It's "legal" in CA for recreation, but some cities and towns will not allow dispensaries for either medical or recreational. My city is one that does not allow them.

People get around it by ordering online and having it delivered. Closest one to me is 30+ miles away.

Legal, anyway... some shops pop up briefly and get closed down because they ain't paying Uncle Gavin his dues.

izonfire
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 7:57:08 PM

or addiction treatment for the killer drugs?

frankj1 wrote:

I could sure go for some killer drugs right about now... 😟

Mr. Jones
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 8:01:03 PM
Question:

Where does A.L.L. THE DECLINED MEDICAL MARIJUANA GO AFTER ITS "DECLINED"?

STRAIGHT to the black market , then to FED EX,

THEN to all the people "in the know"...

Sells for $100-200 an oz...

And boYeeEee

Is it good ..

DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 8:03:27 PM

They are more likely now, than ever before because of the tax revenue it generates. Besides, I think it will be de-scheduled federally basis with a few more years, starting with MMJ and then progressing.

Meanwhile, I have a t/c with my pain doctor for a recommendation for MMJ and the name of a "real" MMJ doctor- who will be able to teach me better methods and routes of administration, and safer and accurate dosing (as opposed to just smoking it). I am hoping a low dose edible will do the trick without getting me too high to function. Could just go get the MMJ card anywhere, anytime, but as long as I am doing it- I want to do it right... and get off anti-inflammatories and muscle relaxants.

rfenst wrote:

I take it you don't own firearms then?

It would preclude you from owning them.

All it takes is 23 states to ratify it as "legal" and the Feds would have to change the existing laws.

I knew of your condition and I can sympathize. The hoops one has to go to go the au naturale route...

Mr. Jones
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 8:06:54 PM
#7 Mac's

Uncle Gavin NEEDS HIS DUES right about now...

Why?

Cuz he paid CONVICTS, CONVICT FAMILIES, & FORIEGNERS IN the Balkans, Russia, Nigeria, ukrain and Greece about $11-30 billion in

Fraudulent unemployment claims that will never be recovered or prosecuted AT ALL...

WHAT A PERFECT S.C.A.M.

GET TO KNOW THE ROOSKIES AND LAGOS NIGERIANS

RUNNING AMOK AT "RENT BY THE HOUR" COMPUTER SWEAT SHOPS IN L.A.G.O.S.

NIGERIAns = GENETICaLLY PROVEN CRImINAL SpAWN AT BIrTH... GUARANTEED 100%

cacman
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 9:44:49 PM
I still don't fully understand the difference between medical and recreational, other than you can get higher quality and THC levels with med.

When I first moved to CO it was only medical. Had to have a buddy go to the dispensary for me as I didn't want to put myself on some sort of guberment list.

There is so much out there now compared to what I grew up with in the 70's, is it even worth it to go through the expense and hassle of a med card? It's not like your MJ doctor isn't going to write a script for 10mg of an indica-based tincture.

For anti-inflammatory and muscle relaxation, a tincture may be a good option instead of smoking it. No buzz at all, There are also THC patches which can be directly applied to specific pain areas. My wife occasionally uses them for her knee. I've used a THC salve on my feet during hunting season. No odor.

Our town does not permit dispensaries. The town 7mi away has one. Tinctures, patches, salves as well as edibles and drinks are all available on the rec side. Not to mention all the hashes, dabs, and anything else you wish to smoke.

izonfire
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 10:15:49 PM

I still don't fully understand the difference between medical and recreational, …………………………a further elaboration of confusion………………………………….

cacman wrote:

The difference between medical and recreational is medical refers to that which is medical in nature, and recreational refers to that which is recreational in nature.

You’re welcome…

cacman
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 10:22:28 PM
^^^ LMAO!! That helps a lot Izon. Thank you brother.
izonfire
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 10:27:39 PM

^^^ LMAO!! That helps a lot Izon. Thank you brother.

cacman wrote:

I got yer back bro… ✊🏽 👍

Mr. Jones
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 11:15:20 PM
#12 cacman lives in nirvana

Tincture and patches heaven...

In Pa.

No card?

No tinctures or patches or anything else.

ZRX1200
Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:07:59 AM
Izon really is the Sir Issac Fig Newton on CBid.
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Wednesday, September 8, 2021 1:21:32 PM

I take it you don't own firearms then

It would preclude you from owning them....

The hoops one has to go to go the au naturale route...

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Your post piqued my interest. Her is what I found on a Florida MMJ site. Sorry it is so long:

"This is one of the many misconceptions associated with medical marijuana: that those holding a Florida medical marijuana card aren’t eligible to apply for a concealed weapon or buy a firearm.

As far as American law is considered, it is the legal right of every citizen to purchase a firearm since the implementation of the second amendment.

However, it’s important to clarify the doubts on whether you can carry a firearm and be a legal cannabis consumer or not. So, we have put all the facts together to help you make an informed decision.

Legalization of Medical Marijuana – Still A Dispute Between Federal and State?

To this date, the federal government and the states seem to have entirely different viewpoints over the consumption of medical marijuana. Despite being legalized in more than 46 states across the U.S., the federal government still classifies cannabis as a Schedule I category drug.

Drugs classified as Schedule I are considered the most dangerous drugs out there – more destructive than even heroin and cocaine. Consequently, the federal government deems cannabis to be a highly lethal drug disregarding any of the medicinal benefits it offers. That is why you can not be “prescribed” medical cannabis but can only be “recommended” for it by medical marijuana doctors in Florida.

These differences in laws imposed by the state and the federal governments make the act of carrying a firearm for medical marijuana cardholders a matter of question and concern. Though some clauses in Florida’s firearm legislation create hurdles for legal medical marijuana consumers to carry or purchase a firearm, none of them makes it an outright impossibility.

Firearm Legislation in Florida – The Impact It May Possess On Medical Marijuana Card Holders

As per Florida firearm legislation, applying for a concealed weapon and purchasing a firearm are two independent affairs. In Florida, there is no requirement to have a permit to buy a firearm. However, there is no permit that can exempt someone from completing the official background check.

Thus, a person who meets the state’s requirements can easily purchase a firearm without applying for permission. However, everyone needs to pass a mandatory background check by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) which is submitted through a Firearms Transaction Record.

As far as the impact of Florida’s firearm legislation is considered, the following section of the law might impact medical marijuana cardholders in purchasing firearms.

[i]Section 790.06(2), states that an applicant shall be provided with a license only if: he/she,

(f) Does not chronically and habitually use alcoholic beverages or other substances to the extent that his or her normal faculties are impaired. It shall be presumed that an applicant chronically and habitually uses alcoholic beverages or other substances to the extent that his or her normal faculties are impaired if the applicant has been convicted under s. 790.151 or has been deemed a habitual offender under s. 856.011(3), or has had two or more convictions under s. 316.193 or similar laws of any other state, within the 3-year period immediately preceding the date on which the application is submitted;

(n) Is not prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm by any other provision of Florida or federal law.

The use of the term “convicted” here makes it clear that no patient holding a medical marijuana card in Florida is prevented from purchasing a firearm unless they have been convicted for committing a cannabis consumption-led crime.

The general requirements for purchasing a firearm in Florida include the following:

The applicant must be 21 years of age or above. However, those associated with law enforcement or related services are eligible for purchasing a firearm once they’re 18 as per F.S. 943.10 and F.S. 250.01.

The applicant must be a resident of Florida to purchase handguns. However, long guns could be purchased by non-residents and long as they fulfill other legal requirements.

Those applicants who are legal permanent resident aliens shall always provide the alien registration number when purchasing a firearm. While the non-resident aliens must showcase a border-crossing number to get the purchase verified.

There is no specified permit required to purchase a firearm in Florida.

Holding A Medical Marijuana Card & Purchasing A Firearm in Florida –

The law does not explicitly prevent any medical marijuana cardholder from purchasing a firearm in Florida. The ATF however introduces additional criteria in the Firearms Transaction Record by including the following question:

“Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?”

For those planning to base their medical marijuana consumption on state legalization, the next point in Firearms Transaction Record highlights, “Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.”

You see the dilemma here?

Though you’re eligible for purchasing a firearm by law, a single question by the ATF prevents you from doing so. However, the legal requirements remain unclear for those who already possessed a firearm when they became medical marijuana cardholders. A lot of discussion and argument has taken place on this topic – questioning the law and the lawmakers over this loophole. But no satisfying answers have been attained yet.

Considering the sections of Florida’s firearm legislation and the preventions highlighted by ATF, we can only conclude that it is neither legal, nor illegal to carry firearms and a medical marijuana card at the same time in Florida. It’s a gray area.

However, the key takeaway here is always to consult professional legal help when confused over carrying either a medical marijuana card, a firearm, or both in Florida. They can provide you with insight into the prevailing legislation and guide you on how to best follow the law.

Although law-making officials are undoubtedly putting a lot of effort in sorting out the black and white from the gray, it might take some time to come up with comprehensive cannabis legislation. However, you can make use of what’s already clear and get in touch with one of the best Florida medical marijuana doctors and get your card issued by going through our MMJ Health patient qualification test.

Smooth light
Wednesday, September 8, 2021 2:07:28 PM
You know pot simulate your nerve ending so the pain is more intense, or did they fix that too.
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Wednesday, September 8, 2021 2:10:04 PM

I still don't fully understand the difference between medical and recreational, other than you can get higher quality and THC levels with med.

When I first moved to CO it was only medical. Had to have a buddy go to the dispensary for me as I didn't want to put myself on some sort of guberment list.

There is so much out there now compared to what I grew up with in the 70's, is it even worth it to go through the expense and hassle of a med card? It's not like your MJ doctor isn't going to write a script for 10mg of an indica-based tincture.

For anti-inflammatory and muscle relaxation, a tincture may be a good option instead of smoking it. No buzz at all, There are also THC patches which can be directly applied to specific pain areas. My wife occasionally uses them for her knee. I've used a THC salve on my feet during hunting season. No odor.

Our town does not permit dispensaries. The town 7mi away has one. Tinctures, patches, salves as well as edibles and drinks are all available on the rec side. Not to mention all the hashes, dabs, and anything else you wish to smoke.

cacman wrote:

It is all the non-smoking routes I want medical advice on. Rather than experiment, I want a real MMJ doctor to explain everything to me. I have found a medical strain from one dispensary that has "Bubba Kush", which has worked best for me for spasm, pain and a big help to my personality when I use it because it tempers my pain. But, that also precludes driving and many other activities.

Don't get me wrong. I love getting high, but that is not the potential solution as it isn't appropriate so much of my time, even though and muscle relaxants, preclude some of the same activities, again for example: driving. And long-term use of anti-inflammatories is not healthy.

MMJ here is of the highest quality. It requires vertical integration from seed to sale. It must all be lab tested too by state certified labs. This ensures purity and quality. I don't think recreational MJ will provide that.

Anyhow, I will post what I learn in a couple weeks...