MACS
4 years ago
It's pretty much all about the benjamins. Always has been, always will be.

This is an interesting take on the whole deal...


I find the comments from Floridians to be mostly in support of Desantis and not Disney.
rfenst
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4 years ago

Walt and Roy Disney were brilliant to carve out their own county equivalent and cities. They just didn’t bargain on future CEOs betting the company on Tranny Tuesday in kindergarten classes, sponsored by Disney.

HockeyDad wrote:


I accept your admission that the whole thing occurred solely from the politics of "Don't Say Gay".
MACS
4 years ago
And where in the entire bill did it ever say "don't say gay"?

Spoiler: It never did, that was a leftist spin job to make people oppose a bill protecting children from age-inappropriate teaching.

It didn't work, thankfully... people actually read the bill.
rfenst
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4 years ago

It's pretty much all about the benjamins. Always has been, always will be.

This is an interesting take on the whole deal...



I find the comments from Floridians to be mostly in support of Desantis and not Disney.

MACS wrote:



I am so glad that YouTube's accurate Florida polling, rather than anecdotal videos, is reliable in this matter.

Disney brings like 50 million tourists to Orlando each year before the pandemic.

I found this with a quick Google search:

A 2019 study found Disney dominates the Central Florida tourism industry, according to Oxford Economics, and produced:

- $75.2 billion annual economic impact for Central Florida.
- 463,000 jobs.
-$5.8 billion in additional state tax revenue.

The sales tax collected just on the 58 million Disney World tickets sold in 2018 was $409 million. That’s more than what the state will spend this year on school construction and maintenance or the entire Department of Elder Affairs budget."

Source: Tallahassee Democrat
rfenst
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4 years ago

And where in the entire bill did it ever say "don't say gay"?

Spoiler: It never did, that was a leftist spin job to make people oppose a bill protecting children from age-inappropriate teaching.

It didn't work, thankfully... people actually read the bill.

MACS wrote:


The law would have been better if it said "Don't Say Gay" and listed exactly what words and topics could not be discussed in a classroom.

The law is legally vague (poorly drafted) because it does not proscribe what a teacher can and cannot say. It will be struck down. See #200 for another legal opinion on this.

So, a teacher could unknowingly and unintentionally violate the law, lose their job and be sued by parents. That is not a good school environment. Third grade teachers here do not teach heterosexuality or homosexuality, unless a kid brings it up and they have to shut it down without discussion.

You live in a state you hate because of its liberal policies. I live in a state governed by an angry a-hole who is using Floridians as fodder for his presidential campaign.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

I accept your admission that the whole thing occurred solely from the politics of "Don't Say Gay".

rfenst wrote:



This run-in wouldn’t have happened if Disney didn’t push so hard to take over Florida politics over sexuality education in K-3.

It’s just the latest run-in with RCID. Orange County took a run at them in the 80s for not paying their fair share. The original RCID was challenged as unconstitutional in the Supreme Court.

RCID, Bay Lake, and Lake Buena Vista have a fascinating history. Walt bought up all that land in bits and pieces under a bunch of different shell companies. Their names still appear on a store window on Main Street in the magic Kingdom. Once people figured it out the price for the land skyrocketed.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

I am so glad that YouTube's accurate Florida polling, rather than anecdotal videos, is reliable in this matter.

Disney brings like 50 million tourists to Orlando each year before the pandemic.

I found this with a quick Google search:

A 2019 study found Disney dominates the Central Florida tourism industry, according to Oxford Economics, and produced:

- $75.2 billion annual economic impact for Central Florida.
- 463,000 jobs.
-$5.8 billion in additional state tax revenue.

The sales tax collected just on the 58 million Disney World tickets sold in 2018 was $409 million. That’s more than what the state will spend this year on school construction and maintenance or the entire Department of Elder Affairs budget."

Source: Tallahassee Democrat

rfenst wrote:



You make a great case for why Disney should have never opened their mouth and jumped in on an issue of alternate sexuality training to K-3 grade of all things!
rfenst
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4 years ago

RCID, Bay Lake, and Lake Buena Vista have a fascinating history. Walt bought up all that land in bits and pieces under a bunch of different shell companies. Their names still appear on a store window on Main Street in the magic Kingdom. Once people figured it out the price for the land skyrocketed.

HockeyDad wrote:



You are preaching to the choir. My family began moving here around 1950 and were involved in several Disney land acquisitions.

The whole reason for the shell companies was to buy the property at uninflated prices. Nothing wrong with that at all.
HockeyDad
4 years ago



You live in a state you hate because of its liberal policies. I live in a state governed by an angry a-hole who is using Floridians as fodder for his presidential campaign.

rfenst wrote:



We also live in a state governed by an angry a-hole who is using Californians as fodder for his presidential campaign.

You want sexuality training in K-3….come on out here! We send 100s of U-Hauls to Florida each day and pretty much have to pay to drive them back out here empty! They’ll make you a deal!
HockeyDad
4 years ago

You are preaching to the choir. My family began moving here around 1950 and were involved in several Disney land acquisitions.

The whole reason for the shell companies was to buy the property at uninflated prices. Nothing wrong with that at all.

rfenst wrote:



Many said they bought the property at undervalued prices using their secrecy scheme and exploited the innocent people. RCID has even used eminent domain.
Speyside2
4 years ago
You are slow buying HD. I am already setting up a ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ+ community. It will have a Dell Webb feel to it. Community bath houses, community techno music dance clubs, every day there is a gay pride parade, public cabanas, and such. We are still debating plushie clubs, my little pony clubs, and Hillary Clinton Pizza parlors. We did rule out dwarf tossing bars, it seems gay men and postoperative transgender men do not have the physical strength to toss a dwarf. Though it has been suggested that we are being insensitive to a cruel stereotyping by having no dwarf tossing bars. Plus it may be a federal hate crime to eliminate potential employment for dwarfs. The DOJ has informed us that dwarfs are a minority that should be protected so they will enforce a non-existent law. We are in negotiations with the to substitute midget tossing as the on average weigh about 1/2 of what a dwarf does. Of course that means we must employ twice as many midgets.
HockeyDad
4 years ago
I’ve been to Rfenst’s house. It’s nice. I’ll give him $50K for it right now and get him out from under this whole debacle.
rfenst
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4 years ago

Many said they bought the property at undervalued prices using their secrecy scheme and exploited the innocent people. RCID has even used eminent domain.

HockeyDad wrote:


Yeah, a lot of people who were happy to sell land tend to complain after the fact when they see how it was developed. Seller's remorse, if you will. BFD.

I have no problem with eminent domain as long as fair compensation is paid. Florida courts can, if they have to, require the government entity to pay more and often do. I don't think any of the many voluntary sellers had a shot-gun to their head.

rfenst
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4 years ago

I’ve been to Rfenst’s house. It’s nice. I’ll give him $50K for it right now and get him out from under this whole debacle.

HockeyDad wrote:


I live in Seminole county and you better multiply your purchase offer 10-15 times.
MACS
4 years ago
Until it's your house or land they want.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

You are slow buying HD. I am already setting up a ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ+ community. It will have a Dell Webb feel to it. Community bath houses, community techno music dance clubs, every day there is a gay pride parade, public cabanas, and such. We are still debating plushie clubs, my little pony clubs, and Hillary Clinton Pizza parlors. We did rule out dwarf tossing bars, it seems gay men and postoperative transgender men do not have the physical strength to toss a dwarf. Though it has been suggested that we are being insensitive to a cruel stereotyping by having no dwarf tossing bars. Plus it may be a federal hate crime to eliminate potential employment for dwarfs. The DOJ has informed us that dwarfs are a minority that should be protected so they will enforce a non-existent law. We are in negotiations with the to substitute midget tossing as the on average weigh about 1/2 of what a dwarf does. Of course that means we must employ twice as many midgets.

Speyside2 wrote:



When you move to San Francisco you see things. Things you can’t unsee. I once saw a man give another man a b low job on a stage at a festival on a public street. Victor808 was standing right beside me when this happened.
HockeyDad
4 years ago

I live in Seminole county and you better multiply your purchase offer 10-15 times.

rfenst wrote:



Well why the hell are you bitching about Orange County residents that could be facing $126k in new property taxes a year per house. Frank Orange County. Ima move to the space coast and I’ll meet up with you at EPCOT and we’ll do it all on Orange County’s dime!
rfenst
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4 years ago

Well why the hell are you bitching about Orange County residents that could be facing $126k in new property taxes a year per house. Frank Orange County. Ima move to the space coast and I’ll meet up with you at EPCOT and we’ll do it all on Orange County’s dime!

HockeyDad wrote:


I do not want to see our region (state's?) economic engine hampered over unconstitutional politics. The only reason there are 1.8 million people in Central Florida is Disney. And, that benefits all of us, one way or another.
rfenst
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4 years ago
“Vagueness is deployed for certain purposes. People aren’t vague just because they’re ignorant; they’re not vague because they’re sloppy; they’re not vague because they’re lazy,” Copeland said. “Sometimes they’re intentionally vague to move the site of where the political fight is going to take place.”
Sunoverbeach
4 years ago
A sold-out house my first night back. Do you have any idea what kinda pressure that is? I could have been at home in my warm bed, playing Nintendo.
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