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Brewha
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3 years ago

#241

Are there any issues of leaving them plugged in for too long (overcharging)?

8trackdisco wrote:

No. In fact they recommend that you leave the car plugged in all them time.

I only plug in once or twice a week, but when I do I don’t unplug until I go some where.
And the car is too smart to let you drive off when plugged in…

8trackdisco
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3 years ago

#242

Brewha wrote:

If it is plugged in all week, what does your energy bill look like, compared to only fully charing it and letting it sit until you need it?

BuckyB93
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3 years ago

#243

Brewha wrote:

Does it fart if you try to so so? That's such a great feature... the fart upgrade. Toyota, Honda, Ford, GM, and VW should implement this in their next generation of vehicles.

Brewha
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3 years ago

#244

Are you willing to provide sources to support your broad based claim? (I'm guessing not as you have not even attempted to provide them). The truth is that they are not more Earth friendly than ICE if you look at the lifecycle of producing, using, and end of life for an EV vs an ICE. EV's lose in the big picture in so many ways. Sources for that have been provided within this thread but you refuse to look at them or address them, which is typical head in the sand behavior.

Of course they are in the business of making money. That's the way things work. The money for EV manufacturing is to tap into the government subsidies and mandates. We've seen this in solar and wind "green energy" for decades but neither of them have produced any substantial return on investment without the subsidies provided by the government.

I'm not anti EV or solar or wind power. There is a time, place, and niche areas where they make sense. They are not the solution for a vast majority of the world. Sorry Charlie, try again.

BuckyB93 wrote:

https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths

Now my crystal ball tells me that some here will say that the EPA cannot be trusted - wait for it.

Gas and Oil are hugely subsidized - what’s the biggie?

And we are talking about the future of EV’s. Not solving the world problems next Tuesday.

BuckyB93
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3 years ago

#245

If it is plugged in all week, what does your energy bill look like, compared to only fully charing it and letting it sit until you need it?

8trackdisco wrote:

It probably stops drawing energy after it's fully charged. It might just trickle a little to top it off as needed while it "sleeps." Similar to a laptop or cell phone (loose example).

Edited by user 3 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Brewha
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3 years ago

#246

Does it fart if you try to so so? That's such a great feature... the fart upgrade. Toyota, Honda, Ford, GM, and VW should implement this in their next generation of vehicles.

BuckyB93 wrote:

Agreed, but they kinda struggle with the sense of humor thing.

Closest thing so far is that the Ford Mustang Mach-E display calls the charger “Horse Power”.
Get it?

Edited by user 3 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Brewha
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3 years ago

#247

Oh, the fart works inside too. You can set the sound to appear to come from any seat in the car and go off every time you put on the turn signal.

The wife doesn’t like it for some reason…..

Brewha
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3 years ago

#248

Here in the Dallas area, seems like each day I see more and more EV’s.

Seen in the wild so far:
Polestar 2 (Volvo)
Chevy Bolt
Mustang Mach-E
Rivian pick up truck (these are really nice)
Hyundai Ioniq 5
Kia EV6
BMW i3
Amazon delivery trucks (Rivian)
and tons of Tesla models S 3 X Y…

Brewha
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3 years ago

#249

Here in another prediction about the Future of EVs:

You will see more and more "news" articles, the upshot of which is "EV's are BAD".

From the Washington Examiner:
Man plugs in electric truck, learns it will take a week to charge
Yes - the truck was broken and needed a service call...

A lot of organization want the public to ignore EV's or think they are fundamentally bad.
More of this to come.

ZRX1200
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3 years ago

#250

And how are those replacement parts coming along?

One of the viral videos (Tyler Hoovie’s F-150 EVT) come to find out was a faulty battery from the factory and the Ford dealer who now owns the truck can’t get a replacement. There’s more than “scary news sorties” going on here and this “news” has been around since hybrids were the thing (H2 Hummers having the same carbon footprint over vehicle lifespan as a Prius). The real issue here is what’s peddled and what’s reality.

If there weren’t mining issues, carbon impact from shipping minerals and recycling hurdles you PROBABLY would only have the argument about government force with mandates. But that would be honest.

Brewha
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3 years ago

#251

ZRX1200 wrote:

A new Ford vehicle still in the first year of ramp up production has parts issues???
You don't say...

Mandates? You mean the California mandate of selling only EV's and PHEV's with in state lines - in 2035 - right?
Dude, that is 12 years away.

Carbon impact of shipping "minerals" (read parts)??
Car parts are sourced world wide today, for almost all cars.

You know that a Prius is a gas vehicle, right?
Burns gas like a hummer, huh?

ZRX1200
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3 years ago

#252

*sighs and rolls eyes loud enough for everyone to hear*

DrafterX
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3 years ago

#253

😟

Brewha
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3 years ago

#254

my car just farted....

Stogie1020
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3 years ago

#255

my car just farted....

Brewha wrote:

So..... It has gas?

ZRX1200
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3 years ago

#256

^ PWNED!

DrMaddVibe
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3 years ago

#257

Brewha wrote:

You see what you want to see. Just a cursory MSRP search and that's IF there's no markup from the dealer.

Polestar 2 (Volvo) - The 2023 Polestar 2 has a base MSRP of $48,400, which is one of the lowest starting prices in the class. The price climbs to $51,900 for the Dual Motor all-wheel-drive model and $75,500 for the BST edition 270.

Chevy Bolt - The Chevy Bolt now starts at $26,500, up $900 from its previous base price. The EUV got a smaller increase of $600, up to a base price of $27,800. Both models are subject to a $995 destination fee on top of these prices.

Mustang Mach-E - Mach-E Version Starting MSRP $42,895 - $64,995

Rivian pick up truck (these are really nice) - $74,075 AWD (add $6,000), Max battery pack (add $16,000), plus one of the five $2,500 optional colors; 20 inch All-Terrain Dark or 22 inch Sport Dark wheels ($3,500, either way); and either the Ocean Coast or Forest Edge vegan leather interior option ($2,000) for a grand total of $104,075

Hyundai Ioniq 5 - $48,745/$57,245

Kia EV6 - $50,025 to $62,925.

BMW i3 - $44,450 - 47,650

Amazon delivery trucks (Rivian) - Not available to the general public

and tons of Tesla models S 3 X Y… - Tesla Model S Long Range AWD: $94,990 (previous: $104,990), Tesla Model S Plaid: $114,990 (previous: $135,990), Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD = $52,990 (previous: $65,990), Tesla Model Y Performance = $56,990 (previous: $69,990), Tesla Model 3 RWD = $43,990 (previous: $46,990), Tesla Model 3 Performance = $56,990 (previous: $62,990), Tesla Model X AWD = $109,990 (previous: 120,990), Tesla Model X Plaid Tri-Motor AWD = $119,990 (previous: 138,990)

The prices listed are 2023 MSRP. Like the posts in this thread show, you cannot get one at MSRP.

BUTT...they make fart noises and that's what really matters.

Brewha
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3 years ago

#258

You see what you want to see. Just a cursory MSRP search and that's IF there's no markup from the dealer.

and tons of Tesla models S 3 X Y… - Tesla Model S Long Range AWD: $94,990 (previous: $104,990), Tesla Model S Plaid: $114,990 (previous: $135,990), Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD = $52,990 (previous: $65,990), Tesla Model Y Performance = $56,990 (previous: $69,990), Tesla Model 3 RWD = $43,990 (previous: $46,990), Tesla Model 3 Performance = $56,990 (previous: $62,990), Tesla Model X AWD = $109,990 (previous: 120,990), Tesla Model X Plaid Tri-Motor AWD = $119,990 (previous: 138,990)

The prices listed are 2023 MSRP. Like the posts in this thread show, you cannot get one at MSRP.

BUTT...they make fart noises and that's what really matters.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Tesla don't have dealers, so there is no dealer screwing. The price on line is the price - I know cause I got one.
Some of the 3's and Y's get the point of sale tax credit. Low price leader:
Model 3 RWD $43,990 - $7,500 credit = $36,490 (and it not only farts but it effen drives itself)

I have heard horror stories about the Ford dealers adding $10k on their EV trucks - because they can.

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ZRX1200
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3 years ago

#259

Now does it COME with self drive or is that an upgrade you pay more for like they do on other options? Tesla is a software company that sells cars. I’ve seen many videos by Tesla proponents that complained about things like performance packages not staying with the car.

Abrignac
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3 years ago

#260

Brewha wrote:

At those prices they don’t need dealer screwing. Musk is handling that himself.

On the other hand, if their is no dealer network who does the warranty maintenance?

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