Brewha
2 years ago

We had a semi across the road getting work done on it Wednesday, so he unloaded his trailer. He was hauling a bunch of Lucid Motors cars. No I’d never heard of them, I could have sworn they were rebadged Kia Stingers……anyways I proceeded to fire up the Google machine, not the most favorable reviews, and the price hikes for the trim levels, HOLY GUACAMOLE Batman……I did feel better knowing that the upper models that have leather, have ethically sourced Napa leather. I was worried.

ZRX1200 wrote:




Great. Now DMV will cut and paste a diatribe about how we are running out of Napa Leather.....


Lucid offers one of those with a 516 mile range. Just to prove that EV's are "not viable".
Brewha
2 years ago

LMMFAO!!!!

Scared of the future? You're the only person that bought an EV and DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT! That only makes you trendy and a Kardashian!

You constantly forget the factual and empirical proof that the EV isn't viable. Strip the rebates and government backed incentives like the Chinese do the Earth to get the minerals necessary for your fart car and it's a terrible option. I'm not even talking about the recyclable catastrophe the batteries are going to create but gloss them all away with the notion that "future" is here. Then again, you were the one crying about the lockdowns, masking up, destroying worldwide economies, vaccination papers and killing grandma over Covid so don't you dare lecture anyone about being scared of the "future"! Ignore the facts and tool around making fart noises. Its a "Look at me" vanity product that sensible people laugh at.


How's that power grid now?

PSST...they use copper in them.


DrMaddVibe wrote:



I would point out, my Luddite friend, that I am impressed by your strong believes against something you admittedly know almost nothing about.

The number 1 selling car in the world is a full electric EV; the Model Y.
More proof of non viability?
The stock of the company that makes them has risen for $10 to $250 a share.
Oh, EV's will never catch on....

But we both know that this is about your unfortunate case of Madagascar syndrome. And apparent copper fetish.

Maybe if you started off small, like an electric toothbrush, you could ease your way into this whole twenty first century thing.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

I would point out, my Luddite friend, that I am impressed by your strong believes against something you admittedly know almost nothing about.

The number 1 selling car in the world is a full electric EV; the Model Y.
More proof of non viability?
The stock company that makes them has risen for $10 to $250 a share.
Oh, EV's will never catch on....

But we both know that this is about your unfortunate case of Madagascar syndrome. And apparent copper fetish.

Maybe if you started off small, like an electric toothbrush, you could ease your way into this whole twenty first century thing.

Brewha wrote:




Hardly Kim.

Once again you try to make claims that are absurd from the beginning.

You're here defending your pious belief that you can see how beautiful the emperor's new clothes are. Standing in judgment of the sullied due to their lack of sight of what you claim to see. Just like Covid, you were the rabid dog at the gate doing anything for your master...now because they say jump...you're saying how high you can. WTG Kimmy.

No copper fetish...thats a stupid claim to ever try to make. It's called common sense. The guy you voted for that shut off the pipelines and closed down the mines...is in bed with the CCP! I'm merely pointing out that you can't get mining to any profitable level with the administration you put into power. I'm so happy you're doing your part in trying to create brownouts if not a complete power down with your fart car.
Brewha
2 years ago

Hardly Kim.

Once again you try to make claims that are absurd from the beginning.

You're here defending your pious belief that you can see how beautiful the emperor's new clothes are. Standing in judgment of the sullied due to their lack of sight of what you claim to see. Just like Covid, you were the rabid dog at the gate doing anything for your master...now because they say jump...you're saying how high you can. WTG Kimmy.

No copper fetish...thats a stupid claim to ever try to make. It's called common sense. The guy you voted for that shut off the pipelines and closed down the mines...is in bed with the CCP! I'm merely pointing out that you can't get mining to any profitable level with the administration you put into power. I'm so happy you're doing your part in trying to create brownouts if not a complete power down with your fart car.

DrMaddVibe wrote:


The claims are easy to verify, by the news and stock market- granted that might make them “absurd” to you.
However:



DMV, on this 4th of July holiday I would like to thank you for all the long grins and honest entertainment you have given here. While I smile at your ongoing conspiracy theories and assertions that opinions equal facts, I know that you truly believe them. Good for you. Keep those flags flying.

You are our social justice worrier, forever vigilant against the evil cabals that would have us put on a solar roof, drive EV’s, get inoculated, or (god help us) think that science has merit.

Thanks again, and happy 4th Doctor MaddVibe.
ZRX1200
2 years ago

Great. Now DMV will cut and paste a diatribe about how we are running out of Napa Leather.....


Lucid offers one of those with a 516 mile range. Just to prove that EV's are "not viable".

Brewha wrote:




Yeah starting out at $138k…..very viable. If Democrats stay in power maybe our dollar will devalue enough that that pencils out for John Q Public.
Brewha
2 years ago
So….maybe don’t spring for the Napa package?
RayR
2 years ago
Save the lives of those baby's, those calves, lambs, and kid goats. Say NO to NAPA LEATHER!
Brewha
2 years ago
One year update on my “unviable” EV.

It’s a Model 3, got it 2022 in June. No service calls other than to have the garage door opener installed.

The wiper blades gave out after 3 months. Tesla wants $50 for a set. Crossed them to Bosch (OEM) for half that. Then found the inserts for $12….so it goes.

Dirt cheap to operate. 350 miles cost about $12 in “gas” charging at home. No oil changes or tune ups to be scheduled - ever.

Never gone more than 200 miles in a day so I have not yet needed to charge out on the road. Looking to plan a trip with the wife - kinda just to test out the charger network.

Autopilot is great going to the grocery store and work. Won’t buy the Full Self driving; cost too much for the mile I drive.

Fastest car I ever owned; 4.2 seconds 0-60, 12 second 1/4 mile. I stack that against my 88 corvette Z52 manual trans, 94 Mustang GT, etc, etc…Love the speed, does it all no drama, in the rain, cause it’s computer controlled AWD. Best car yet in the snow and ice.

The bad:
You loose a few miles of range in extreme heat and cold.
The door handles are hard to find at night (black on dark blue).
The ride could be smoother.
If you jump in an go when overnight cold, it can take a 1/2 mile before the mirrors unfold and the GPS goes live.

Oh, kids in BMW “M” 3 series keep pulling up and reving their fart cans - because they are kids.
MACS
2 years ago
Yeah... a Tesla beats an M3 and then you wake up and have pop tarts. What a fktard.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

The claims are easy to verify, by the news and stock market- granted that might make them “absurd” to you.
However:



DMV, on this 4th of July holiday I would like to thank you for all the long grins and honest entertainment you have given here. While I smile at your ongoing conspiracy theories and assertions that opinions equal facts, I know that you truly believe them. Good for you. Keep those flags flying.

You are our social justice worrier, forever vigilant against the evil cabals that would have us put on a solar roof, drive EV’s, get inoculated, or (god help us) think that science has merit.

Thanks again, and happy 4th Doctor MaddVibe.

Brewha wrote:



Absurd? Worrying? Naw. Just able to apply critical thinking skills with the ability to think ahead. Moves ahead. I liken it to a survival skill that I learned while playing chess in elementary school, but some are never able to use these skills and apply them in Life. They would rather be told what to think, do and purchase. Oh well.

So, now that we're all bought in with Pedo Joe's Green New Deal and there won't be any ICE's on the road in 2030...he's put into place a huge backstop that government will have to fill. Have no fear, taxpayers will be paying that! It started with incentivizing purchases that weak minded claim as tax write-offs. Never thinking much further than they can piss now the Department of Defense has gone into "worry mode". Like some "Dr. Strangelove" plotline to usher in a new war, would you believe they don't have the minerals and metals locked down that are necessary for their "toys"? No? Think it's just me on some "conspiracy" bender? Nope. So, remember you heard it from me 1st when you want to claim something that you can't fathom. I'm still scratching my head as to why we had to bailout the auto manufacturers in the 1st place. Now as they lose billions of dollars and 10's of thousands of jobs they'll be pining for a Bailout 2.0.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dod-invokes-defense-production-act-boost-metals-mining-after-china-export-controls [/i][/color][/size]

Every time you claim a conspiracy, I get proved right yet again. You need to try harder. Might want to lay off the boosters. They don't do anything but harm you.
Brewha
2 years ago

Absurd? Worrying? Naw. Just able to apply critical thinking skills with the ability to think ahead. Moves ahead. I liken it to a survival skill that I learned while playing chess in elementary school, but some are never able to use these skills and apply them in Life. They would rather be told what to think, do and purchase. Oh well.

So, now that we're all bought in with Pedo Joe's Green New Deal and there won't be any ICE's on the road in 2030...he's put into place a huge backstop that government will have to fill. Have no fear, taxpayers will be paying that! It started with incentivizing purchases that weak minded claim as tax write-offs. Never thinking much further than they can piss now the Department of Defense has gone into "worry mode". Like some "Dr. Strangelove" plotline to usher in a new war, would you believe they don't have the minerals and metals locked down that are necessary for their "toys"? No? Think it's just me on some "conspiracy" bender? Nope. So, remember you heard it from me 1st when you want to claim something that you can't fathom. I'm still scratching my head as to why we had to bailout the auto manufacturers in the 1st place. Now as they lose billions of dollars and 10's of thousands of jobs they'll be pining for a Bailout 2.0.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dod-invokes-defense-production-act-boost-metals-mining-after-china-export-controls [/i][/color][/size]

Every time you claim a conspiracy, I get proved right yet again. You need to try harder. Might want to lay off the boosters. They don't do anything but harm you.

DrMaddVibe wrote:




Never thought of elementary school chess as something one - "survived".....
I'll have to think on that for a bit.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

Never thought of elementary school chess as something one - "survived".....
I'll have to think on that for a bit.

Brewha wrote:




You're a real idiot.
Brewha
Brewha
2 years ago

Yeah... a Tesla beats an M3 and then you wake up and have pop tarts. What a fktard.

MACS wrote:





You have to admire someone who is so very consistently wrong…..
MACS
2 years ago
I don't admire you at all.

And that's not your off the lot Tesla Model 3, either at 65k. I won't say it's not impressive. It is... but it still doesn't "beat" an M3. The deal is only as good as the downside. Too much downside with the Tesla.
Brewha
2 years ago
That was a Model 3 Performance (one of three versions sold “off the lot”). Because Tesla production is now in full swing, that car now retails for $53,240 and is eligible for a $7,500 tax credit. Factor in gas, maintenance and BMW “reliability” (😂) and it stomps a mud hole in the M3.

But ymmv…
MACS
2 years ago

That was a Model 3 Performance (one of three versions sold “off the lot”). Because Tesla production is now in full swing, that car now retails for $53,240 and is eligible for a $7,500 government subsidy at taxpayer's expense. Factor in gas, maintenance and BMW “reliability” (😂) and it stomps a mud hole in the M3.

But ymmv…

Brewha wrote:



FIFY
HockeyDad
2 years ago
Teslas make fine Ubers. It’s the new Prius.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

Teslas make fine Ubers. It’s the new Prius.

HockeyDad wrote:





I dunno, a Prius is looking more masculine like a Hummer than a Tesla making fart noises sucking down taxpayer backed subsidies!

Any truth that Tesla's have White Claw cupholders now for hands free driving? That's what I heard.
delta1
2 years ago
in other news, out of the blue, I received in the mail an issue of Car and Driver magazine from the ever generous DED. He exhibits the true collegiality that exists here in CBid. He noticed I had an interest in buying an EV for my next car so he sent this issue devoted to EVs, identifying some top picks. According to C and D, Hyundai and KIA seem to be turning out great EVs.

Of course I, the gas guzzler at heart, was drawn to the comparison test between the Vette Z06 vs the Porsche GT3.
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