Just for you Delta...

CT5-V Blackwing vs Tesla Model S Plaid vs M5 CS Review and Drag Race

Thanks Brew! very entertaining...subtle and not so subtle digs at Caddy and Beamers...and their "endearing" qualities...

yes...electric vehicles outperform gas burners...without a lot of the fuss and muss

my SIL borrowed his friends Model S a few months ago, put it in sport mode and stomped on the accelerator...almost gave me whiplash...

Hurry, Hurry, Hurry...step right up...you've got a 3 car garage...now buy 3 EV's!!! Don't you want to be cool and be the center of attention? Don't use the little blue pill to satisfy your little lady, get an EV an she'll fall at your feet stud! BUY NOW!!!




The number of unsold electric vehicles at dealers in the second quarter tripled compared to the past year, signaling a weakened demand for the segment, said a recent report by leading auto-dealer data company Cox Automotive.

In second quarter 2023, the average inventory for electric vehicles (EVs) topped more than 92,000 units on the ground at dealer lots, according to the 2023 Cox Automotive Mid-Year Review presentation. This is up 342 percent compared to second quarter 2022. During this period, the new “EV days’ supply,” which refers to the average number of days a warehouse holds inventory before selling it, rose 166 percent, to 92 days from 38.5 days. While the pace of EV sales is up, it is “not rising as fast as inventory builds,” said Jonathan Gregory, senior manager, Economic and Industry Insights.

Original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) are facing a “field of dreams moment,” he stated. “They have built inventory, and now they wait for buyers to come. This is one of the hottest topics we’ve had this year.”

Brands like Jaguar, Infiniti, and Lincoln had the highest days of supply, at over 100 days. The lowest numbers were seen among Toyota, Honda, Kia, and Lexus, with each brand having less than 30 days of supply.

Tesla continued to dominate the luxury EV segment with a market share of 25.5 percent, followed by Mercedes at 12.5 percent, BMW at 12.2 percent, and Lexus at 11 percent. Among EVs priced above $50,000, Ford held the biggest share at 22.1 percent, followed by Chevrolet at 12.1 percent.

Unlike other parts of the world, U.S. citizens remain on the sidelines when considering an EV purchase.

According to an April 2023 report by consumer intelligence company JD Power, more Americans are unwilling to buy EVs. In March, 21 percent of new vehicle shoppers said they were “very unlikely” to consider an EV, up from 17.8 percent in January.

During this period, the proportion of people who said they were “very likely” to buy an EV remained flat at around 26 percent.

“Lack of public charging infrastructure and price have been the top two concerns for the past 10 months, along with related issues involving range anxiety, time required to charge, and power outage and grid concerns,” the report said.

Dealer-Customer EV Expectations Diverge

While inventory is building up at dealer lots, a study by Cox Automotive found a wide gap between dealers and customers regarding future expectations of EV use.

According to Cox Automotive’s 2023 Path to “EV Adoption: Consumer and Dealer Perspectives” study, even though 53 percent of consumers see EVs as a future and that such vehicles will replace gas engines over time, only 31 percent of dealers held such a view.

“Nearly half (45 percent) of dealers surveyed feel that EVs still need to prove themselves in the marketplace,” said a press release on June 27.

In addition, the study also found that while customer interest in EVs is rapidly rising, sales continue to remain far lower in comparison. The research found that 51 percent of consumers were considering a new or used EV even though electric vehicles are only expected to make up less than 8 percent of total new vehicle sales this year.

Cox Automotive is expecting the sale of new EVs to surpass one million units for the first time in 2023. According to the firm’s Dealer Sentiment Index, the biggest factor which held back EV dealers during the second quarter was the state of the economy. This was followed by interest rates, limited inventory, market conditions, and credit availability for consumers.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/waiting-buyers-come-unsold-electric-vehicles-piling-car-dealerships-says-report 

The CCP needs more aircraft carriers...BUY NOW!

The future seems so yesterday.


TOLD YA this was going to happen!!!!



Proterra, an electric bus manufacturing company promoted by the Biden administration, had everything it needed to succeed - and failed anyway.

As the Washington Free Beacon’s Chuck Ross reported:

Proterra cited "various market and macroeconomic headwinds" in a Chapter 11 filing on Monday, which came after the California-based firm cut hundreds of jobs earlier this year and restructured hundreds of millions of dollars in outstanding debt.

Proterra stood to rake in millions from Biden's infrastructure and green energy initiatives, the former of which included at least $5 billion in spending on electric buses alone. Biden's flagship climate bill, the Inflation Reduction Act, also includes spending to help cities convert from diesel buses to electric buses, a major incentive for companies like Proterra.

JoAnn Covington, Proterra's chief legal officer, acknowledged last year that tax credits and federal grants under Biden's bills were a major incentive for the company. Grants to purchase electric buses and to create electric vehicle charging infrastructure would ​"open up opportunities to accelerate adoption of battery-electric and zero-emissions vehicles to all the other commercial segments on the cusp of being electrified," Covington said.

Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm held non-public shares of proterra, which she sold in mid 2021 to an undisclosed buyer, pocketing over a $1 million profit in the process. She pledged to disclose the buyer, but never did. Proterra's stock only crashed from there, and Granholm’s 240,000 shares would be worth roughly $60,000 total as of writing, had she still held them.

Earlier this year in February, Proterra’s CEO Gareth Joyce was appointed by Biden to his Export Council.

Joe Biden himself promoted Proterra. Last year, during a speech touting electric vehicles, Biden said “Since 2021, companies have announced investments totaling more than $200 billion in domestic manufacturing here in America, from iconic companies like GM and Ford building out new electric vehicle production; to Tesla, our nation’s largest electric vehicle manufacturer; to innovative younger companies like Rivian, building electric trucks, or Proterra, building electric buses, which I saw at a virtual tour last year when I met with the CEO virtually. And they really impressed me.” (Rivian hasn’t done great either, with its stock losing over 80% of its value since it’s public debut).

The year prior, Biden hosted a virtual White House event that spotlighted Proterra’s business, which included the president of the company giving a virtual tour of the company’s manufacturing facility.

Evidently, Bidenomics isn’t even working for those it’s supposed to be rigged in favor of.

https://bongino.com/electric-vehicle-company-heavily-promoted-by-biden-admin-goes-bankrupt 

Anyone remember Solyndra? No? The Big Guy's bathhouse boss taught him the gift of the grift.

You can bet CEO Gareth Joyce and the rest of the anti-capitalist cronies and corporate grifters walk away from failure with piles of cash just like what happened with Solyndra.

Welcome to the Desert of the Real.

Clean Energy Exploitations & The Death Spiral Of An Auto Industry

Biden is so wrong, even the liberal Guardian sees it. But it’s full speed ahead with massive subsidies for something counterproductive...

Ronald Stein at the Heartland institute says Unsold Electric Cars May Be Signaling a Death Spiral for the Auto Industry

As the future is fast approaching, virtually all the automobile manufacturers, through government mandates to reduce the emissions of their fleet of vehicles, are going all-in to only manufacture EV’s in the coming years. To meet low emissions for their fleet of vehicles, we’re most likely going to see fewer and fewer hybrids as the auto industry manufacturers need to eliminate the gasoline engines in hybrids to meet those lower emission targets.

The problem is that manufacturers are loading up the “supply chain” with EV’s on dealer lots, but they’re not seeing the “demand” for EV’s coming from the public.

Demand Flop Reasons

driving range,

vehicle reliability,

price,

the availability of electricity for the buildout of the charging infrastructure,

charging time,

the cost and lifespan of batteries and their environmental impact,

the actual impact EVs will have on reducing carbon emissions,

the growing statistics about uncontrollable fires of lithium batteries in EV’s,

problems with battery recycling and end-of-life management,

concerns that the EV free ride of usage of highways and not paying fuel taxes is about to end with the Vehicle Mileage Tax (VMT), i.e., more costs for the EV owners of the future,

concerns that home chargers are destined to follow the UK and be on separate meters so that EV charging will be at higher rates to help stabilize the electrical grid, again more costs for the EV owners of the future.

None of the above is new except perhaps that last bullet point. I have written about the above concern list many times, but it is an excellent synopsis.

Additional Problems

Another problem for the automobile industry is convincing the buyers that its ethical, moral, and socially responsible to buy an EV, especially since most of the exotic mineral and metal supplies to build the batteries are being mined in developing countries with limited environmental regulation nor labor regulations.

Interestingly, the 2021 Pulitzer Prize nominated book “Clean Energy Exploitations – Helping Citizens Understand the Environmental and Humanity Abuses That Support Clean Energy does an excellent job of discussing the lack of transparency to the world of the green movement’s impact upon humanity exploitations in the developing countries that are mining for the exotic minerals and metals required to create the batteries needed to store “green electricity”. Complimentary to the book is a 2-minute clip from Michael Moore’s 2020 documentary film, Planet of the Humans, that’s been viewed by more than 14 million, that illustrates how so-called green electricity is made

It’s not often I agree with Michael Moore on anything, but his video ought to be an eye opener for those who mistakenly believe EV will do anything for the environment.

https://youtu.be/rK_EpFeNlvY?si=wCbYt7YDVrnaaFav

The video start at the 36:44 mark, a good spot for the exploitation that goes into producing the minerals needed for EVs and how solar energy is destroying the desert.

California Leads the Way

Most states lack the year-round temperate climate that Californians enjoy, the distribution of EV ownership throughout the nation should be a concern to the auto industry. With 40 percent of the EV’s in America being in California, that leaves the other 60 percent being among the other 49 States, or approximately 1+ percent per State.

To support the State’s EV growth, California imports more electricity than any other US state, more than twice the amount of Virginia, the second largest importer of electricity. California typically receives between one-fifth and one-third of its electricity supply from outside of the state.

The other 49 states have virtually non-existent EV charging infrastructures, and a few of them may be exporting their electricity to California!

UK Madness

As of May 30, 2022, in the UK, new home and workplace chargers being installed must be “smart” chargers” connected to the internet and able to employ pre-sets limiting their ability to function from 8 am to 11 am and 4 pm to 10 pm.

In addition to the nine hours a day of downtime, authorities will be able to impose a “randomized delay” of 30 minutes on individual chargers in certain areas to prevent grid spikes at other times.

The UK Electric Vehicles (Smart Charge Points) Regulations 2021 came into force on June 30, 2022. All home installed electric vehicle chargers are required to be separately metered and send information to the Smart meter data communications network. Potentially this legislation allows the electricity used for charging EVs to be charged and taxed at a higher rate than domestic electricity. The technology enacted also enables the rationing of electricity for EV charging because the government can decide when and if an EV can be charged, plus it also allows the EV battery to be drained into the grid if required.

Carnage of Child Labor and Ecological Destruction ‘Elsewhere’ acceptable to Wealthy Countries

Next, please consider Carnage of Child Labor and Ecological Destruction ‘Elsewhere’ acceptable to Wealthy Countries, also by Ronald Stein.

The Administration is laser-focused on ending the “climate crisis” by switching to “clean” electricity. It has few qualms about importing the critically needed materials from foreign countries, primarily China – regardless of economic, defense, national security, ecological or human rights implications. It just wants the dirty aspects of “clean” electricity far away and out of sight.

In California, Governor Gavin Newsom has been vocal about his commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions in the state. However, some of his recent actions of “leaking” emissions to other countries violate many sections of the written legal framework of The California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and California Global Warming Solutions Act (AB32).

The silence is deafening from billionaires like Bill Gates, John Kerry, Mark Zuckerberg, George Soros, Michael Bloomberg, and President Biden.Through the encouragement of tax incentives and subsidies to go to EV’s and electricity from wind and solar, they are providing financial incentives to China, who already controls the supply chain for the minerals and metals to go green, furthering our total dependence on China to achieve the green goals of America.

“The wealthy country elites continue to demonstrate their lack of ethical, moral, and social responsibilities, by using subsidies that encourage the continued exploitations of people with yellow, brown, and black skin and the environmental degradation occurring elsewhere, out of view of those living in wealthy countries,” says Stein.

The destruction, however, is not just elsewhere.

How an Oasis Becomes a Dead Sea

The Guardian comments Solar Farms Took Over the California Desert: ‘An Oasis Has Become a Dead Sea’

Kevin Emmerich worked for the National Park Service for over 20 years before setting up Basin & Range Watch in 2008, a non-profit that campaigns to conserve desert life. He says solar plants create myriad environmental problems, including habitat destruction and “lethal death traps” for birds, which dive at the panels, mistaking them for water.

He says one project bulldozed 600 acres of designated critical habitat for the endangered desert tortoise, while populations of Mojave fringe-toed lizards and bighorn sheep have also been afflicted. “We’re trying to solve one environmental problem by creating so many others.”

Madness in Michigan

Last week a reader called me regarding use of solar panels in Michigan. Since he began fighting such projects a few years ago, he has been targeted by IRS audits.

The harassment continues despite him winning the battles.

Michigan is probably one of the worst places to place solar. I suggested to my reader to look up Michigan cloudiness. Check this out.

A 2013 study concluded that over a 31-year period, Michigan winters are filled with clouds more than 50% of the time. That means the months of December, January and February are quite cloudy. Places like Wisconsin, however, are less than 30% cloudy on average in the winter.

A 2023 update shows it’s even worse. PBS reports Michigan winters are super cloudy and getting worse.

For nearly two weeks, clouds blanketed large swaths of Michigan, occasionally accompanied by rainfall that transformed our winter wonderland into a muddy mess.

The bad news is gloomy, muddy winters could become increasingly normal in Michigan as climate change chips away at Great Lakes ice cover, strengthening the forces that drive lake effect clouds, rain and snow.

And how much of the time would those solar panels be covered in snow?

Even with subsidies, there is no way solar projects in Michigan can possibly work.

Solar Energy Is Not Cheaper

I am sick of all these lies about solar being cheaper. On a new facility, in sunny place, it might appear so on the surface. But that ignores the fact that existing plants are up an running and will need to be mothballed, if and when there is storage capacity to deal with the inconvenient issue that sun does not shine at night.

Destruction of productive facilities for something only marginally better makes little sense. And it makes no sense at all when one factors in required grid updates, child labor exploitation, and also the destruction of US deserts, the latter discussed in detail below.

What to Expect When Politicians Try to Pick Technology Winners

On May 25, with a spotlight on the EU, I commented on What to Expect When Politicians Try to Pick Technology Winners Part 1

Biden’s Solar Push Is Destroying the Desert and Releasing Stored Carbon

The Left ignored environment destruction, even in the US.

On May 28, 2023, I noted Biden’s Solar Push Is Destroying the Desert and Releasing Stored Carbon

Biden is so clearly wrong, even the extremely liberal Guardian sees it. But it’s full speed ahead with massive subsidies for something counterproductive for the goal.

Electric Vehicles for Everyone?

On July 19, I asked Electric Vehicles for Everyone? If the Dream Was Met, Would it Help the Environment?

My follow-up post was What Do MishTalk Readers Think About “Electric Vehicles for Everyone?”

Math Does Not Add Up

The EV math does not add up in the EU or here. But the Economic and Monetary Union (EMU), better known as the Eurozone, has economic debt brakes and budget rules that make matters more painful for the 20 EMU countries.

In the US, deficits pile up as do the economic impacts of a massive wave of Bidenomic regulations and mandates.

We pretend that deficits don’t matter and mainstream media not only looks the other way, but is in on the act with countless fearmongering stories.

Inflationary Madness Marches On

On August 17, I commented Yet Another Biden Regulation Will Increase Costs and Promote More Inflation

It involves a new Biden regulation that will increase the price of all government projects. Click on the link for details.

Rooftop Solar Panel Madness

The one place where solar might makes sense is roof top solar panels. But even there, we have environmental madness, taxing the hell out of panels, making them too expensive to use.

For discussion, please see The Cost of Soup is About to Increase, Thank President Biden

The above article discusses soup and solar panels. Soup is the sideline.

US policy is so convoluted that we aim to put solar where it makes no sense at all, and kill the idea where it does.

Meanwhile, If you actually believe you are doing something positive for the environment by buying a Tesla, you are an environmental fool.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/clean-energy-exploitations-death-spiral-auto-industry 

There is your future.

What do internal combustion engine vehicles and electric vehicles have in common??

They're both powered by fossil fuels.

Under new state law, Texas will bill electric vehicle drivers an extra $200 a year

The new registration fee is meant to make up for the state’s lost revenue from gasoline taxes that are used to pay for road construction and maintenance.

Earlier this year, state lawmakers passed Senate Bill 505, which requires electric vehicle owners to pay the fee when they register a vehicle or renew their registration. It’s being imposed because lawmakers said EV drivers weren’t paying their fair share into a fund that helps cover road construction and repairs across Texas.

Many environmental and consumer advocates agreed with lawmakers that EV drivers should pay into the highway fund but argued over how much.

Some thought the state should set the fee lower to cover only the lost state tax dollars, rather than both the state and federal money, because federal officials may devise their own scheme. Others argued the state should charge nothing because EVs help reduce greenhouse gas emissions that drive climate change.

“We urgently need to get more electric vehicles on the road,” said Luke Metzger, executive director of Environment Texas. “Any increased fee could create an additional barrier for Texans, and particularly more moderate- to low-income Texans, to make that transition.”

The federal government giveth the rebates... the state government taketh them away. lol

I've heard "The power to tax is the power to destroy".

Come on DMV.
You have always been a laugh riot. 😂

If you don’t buy an EV by 2030, it is going to count against your social credit score.

Banking on it.....NOT!

Actually, on this thread...you're the butt of the joke. Notice you had NOTHING to refute what the last article had to say. You'll do anything the government tells you to do.

The Ford CEO...he got played just like you. Not the 1st EV trip that resulted in failure for them.




Ford CEO Jim Farley experienced the headache of electric-vehicle charging firsthand and acknowledged there was much to do to improve the experience for his customers.

Farley hit the road in an F-150 Lightning last week, traversing Route 66 and the American West to put the electric truck through its paces. He documented his trip on LinkedIn and X, the social-media website formerly known as Twitter.

At the end of the trip on Sunday, Farley shared his experience with charging the massive electric pickup truck.

"Charging has been pretty challenging," Farley said in a video posted on X. "It was a really good reality check of the challenges our customers go through and the importance of fast charging."

Farley said he visited a popular charging depot on Interstate 5 in Coalinga, California, where there were plenty of Tesla Superchargers. The Ford CEO, however, had to use a low-speed charger that he said delivered him a 40% charge in about 40 minutes.

Access to the Supercharger network can change the experience

Farley's experience is representative of one of the biggest remaining barriers to EV adoption, especially for non-Tesla owners.

Right now, Ford EVs can't charge at Supercharger stations, which likely would have delivered Farley and his truck more charge in a shorter period of time. But the Dearborn, Michigan, car company is partnering with Tesla to make the Supercharger network available to Ford drivers starting in spring.

After Ford announced its Supercharger partnership, other companies, including GM and Rivian, followed suit.
80 of the world’s top 100 tech firms have expanded to Singapore. Here’s why 2 US-based companies made the move.

Ford faces the EV plateau

Addressing problems like charging experience is going to be crucial to EV adoption in the next few years as the industry heads for a plateau in EV segment growth.

Ford already appears to be reacting to this slow in the growth curve. After electric Mustang Mach-Es started piling up at dealerships this summer, Ford adjusted its ambitious EV production goals for the year and appeared to abandon plans to build 2 million EVs by the end of 2026.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-ceo-electric-f-150-road-trip-charging-reality-check-2023-8?op=1 


Must....stop....the bleeding....save the "patient".....

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/28/ford-embraces-hybrids-as-it-loses-billions-on-evs.html [/i][/color]

Wonder if the towel they're throwing in says "Ford Tough" on it?

Ya, about that "Charging has been pretty challenging" stuff...

The Truth Will Out
By eric -August 19, 2023

Electric vehicles don’t stop climate change but when you catch climate change, it makes the effects much less severe.

So....again, I bought an EV cause I like the car and it's fast.

You know, maybe you should stop listening to what people tell you and check out for yourself. That way we could compare notes on experience, not just my year of ownership against your hearsay and opinions from others.

But you're not going to, are you?
EV's are a "liberal plot" and you're way to smart to fall for that - right?

Better, you will nip this sinister plot in the bud: "Captain Cut-n-Paste to the rescue!"

So....again, I bought an EV cause I like the car and it's fast.

Brewha wrote:

Great. So? This conversation was NEVER about a fast car.

You know, maybe you should stop listening to what people tell you and check out for yourself. That way we could compare notes on experience, not just my year of ownership against your hearsay and opinions from others.

Brewha wrote:

I have. It's not viable in my world. Even though on this thread I've stated quite clearly what my criteria is. You choose to play some stupid game. The Ford CEO couldn't even make it coast to coast and gave up on the leg from Michigan to Carolina.

But you're not going to, are you?
EV's are a "liberal plot" and you're way to smart to fall for that - right?

Better, you will nip this sinister plot in the bud: "Captain Cut-n-Paste to the rescue!"

Brewha wrote:

If you want to classify it as a "liberal plot" that's on you. I see this as another administration picking winners and losers with our money. We, the taxpayer have already bailed out the American auto industry once. By making up CAFE standards on a whim based on some fantasy numbers they have crippled them into submission. Just because an Executive Branch agency declares something doesn't it make it reality. You want to excuse them or worse, pretend reality doesn't matter. After all they told you grandma was going to die if you didn't wear a mask. Then you bought in to the vaccinations. Then you bought into the lockdowns and started talking down to people that had a differing opinion on the clot shots. Even after the lies were exposed you want to go back and believe the very same people? You have no problem bragging about taking rebate money for an expenditure that you chose to make. Nobody forced you into it, you gladly leaped. The reality is the electric vehicle (the way they're made now and from what I can see, even the foreseeable future) is not viable. There are enough links and articles in this thread alone to show you that I'm correct in what I'm saying.

As for your last paragraph, it doesn't make any sense to me at all. My dip$hit lemming translator must be broken.

We should resurrect this topic in 12 years if it's not still going then.