Abrignac
2 years ago

Oh, I'm sorry to wreck your self-imposed banning of a guy. Especially after bragging about it??? [frypan] [frypan] [frypan] Geez, where's my manners. I was never good at these Southern lynchings...I blame my California upbringing on that...suppose. Now, can you direct me to the post that Ray shot up asking for help here on a cigar forum with his erectile dysfunction like you did? Talk about a wet dream there, way to go there Shooter!

DrMaddVibe wrote:



So in addition to a lack of manors we can add reading comprehension to your long list of deficits? No problem.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

So in addition to a lack of manors we can add reading comprehension to your long list of deficits? No problem.

Abrignac wrote:




No, I only have one home, all I need thank you.

You taking off your socks to do all that cipherin'?

Whatever Spiderman
tonygraz
2 years ago
I always thought you needed a special home.
Whistlebritches
2 years ago

Pretty much consensus expected. Not that I really GAF about what the proselytizers think. I can run circles around many of their arguments. But, that’s a topic for another day, time and place.

Abrignac wrote:




Only in your feeble mind there Legend.:^o
RayR
2 years ago
That Abrignac sure is cocky ain't he? I don't know what I did to piss him off, probably mocked his favorite dicktator or something.

Anyway, anyone that brags that they can run circles around many of your arguments but doesn't is full of hot air.
Brewha
2 years ago

I always thought you needed a special home.

tonygraz wrote:


And bus....
Brewha
2 years ago

Ray’s kinda got you there.

HockeyDad wrote:


One in a row....
RayR
2 years ago

One in a row....

Brewha wrote:



So, you admit only one huh? I'm all over your BS like white on rice boy!
MACS
Speyside2
2 years ago
Anthony, the biblical Hebrew word translated as day is Yom. it has 7 or 8 meanings. This is common with older languages. They have less words with multiple meanings. Another meaning for Yom is time. I prefer this meaning because it makes sense to me. From a biblical standpoint the sun and moon were not created till the fourth Yom. So, I do not believe the 6-day/24-hour philosophy. Also, radiometric dating places the earth at 4 .5 billion years old. Radiometric dating is thought to be accurate + or - .5 billion years. This would make the earth between 4 and 5 billion years old. Of course, all of the above is only my opinion. Though I do prefer to form my own opinion as opposed to being told what my opinion will be.
delta1
2 years ago

You do realize this is NOT the politics forum? See what you did? You brought that babbling idiot Ray to the party. Can’t see what he posted, but I’m sure it’s the same old drivel that caused me to mute him.

Abrignac wrote:



I blame MACS and Whistle...they posted the article in which the authors pat themselves on the back arguing their specific religion has a corner on the goods...

RR is entitled to respond to anything he sees here, and I do not let his potential outbursts affect what I choose to say...
MACS
2 years ago

I blame MACS and Whistle...they posted the article in which the authors pat themselves on the back arguing their specific religion has a corner on the goods...

RR is entitled to respond to anything he sees here, and I do not let his potential outbursts affect what I choose to say...

delta1 wrote:



Dadburnit...
Brewha
2 years ago

Anthony, the biblical Hebrew word translated as day is Yom. it has 7 or 8 meanings. This is common with older languages. They have less words with multiple meanings. Another meaning for Yom is time. I prefer this meaning because it makes sense to me. From a biblical standpoint the sun and moon were not created till the fourth Yom. So, I do not believe the 6-day/24-hour philosophy. Also, radiometric dating places the earth at 4 .5 billion years old. Radiometric dating is thought to be accurate + or - .5 billion years. This would make the earth between 4 and 5 billion years old. Of course, all of the above is only my opinion. Though I do prefer to form my own opinion as opposed to being told what my opinion will be.

Speyside2 wrote:



I always tooks "days" to mean Eons or Epochs.

And try as the bible authors did to explain things, they did get the order wrong:

Day 1 - Light. Like the Big Bang

Day 2 - Firmament. Expansion, cooling and the beginning of planetary accretion

Day 3 - Earth, Sea and vegetation. This would be from the the Hadean eon to end of the Archean eon. Like 2.5 billion years.

Day 4 - Sun, moon and stars. Ok, so this happened days 1 through 2, with the moon showing up at the beginning of day 3.

Day 5 - Birds and sea creatures. So birds came after land animals (day 6). But let's just say this was the end of the Proterozoic through the Paleozoic.

Day 6 - Land animals and humans. This would have been a long day with us showing up in the last few moments.



You have to hand it to them that they didn't do so bad for a bunch of sheep herders.
RayR
2 years ago

I blame MACS and Whistle...they posted the article in which the authors pat themselves on the back arguing their specific religion has a corner on the goods...

RR is entitled to respond to anything he sees here, and I do not let his potential outbursts affect what I choose to say...

delta1 wrote:



I refuse to respond to anything here since I've heard it is inappropriate to discuss religion and politics in the General Discussion Forum, being that somebody's feelings might get hurt.

You on the other hand are entitled to respond to anything in the Politics Forum even though I know you are afraid too. 🐔
MACS
2 years ago
Which is crazier...

nothing + nothing = something

Or

nothing + someone = something
Speyside2
2 years ago

I always tooks "days" to mean Eons or Epochs.

And try as the bible authors did to explain things, they did get the order wrong:

Day 1 - Light. Like the Big Bang

Day 2 - Firmament. Expansion, cooling and the beginning of planetary accretion

Day 3 - Earth, Sea and vegetation. This would be from the the Hadean eon to end of the Archean eon. Like 2.5 billion years.

Day 4 - Sun, moon and stars. Ok, so this happened days 1 through 2, with the moon showing up at the beginning of day 3.

Day 5 - Birds and sea creatures. So birds came after land animals (day 6). But let's just say this was the end of the Proterozoic through the Paleozoic.

Day 6 - Land animals and humans. This would have been a long day with us showing up in the last few moments.



You have to hand it to them that they didn't do so bad for a bunch of sheep herders.

Brewha wrote:




Interesting to say the least. So, let's discuss the big bang. You will have to put up with my miniscule understanding of quantum mechanics. The idea of a multiverse makes my head hurt. Time would have to be parallel and consistent for me, otherwise it is beyond my comprehension. Then there is dark matter. I simply am not ready to accept it based only on gravitational effects. That leaves quantum fluctuations. We could go with that, but I won't. It is my belief that Hilbert space is incompletely defined. There is at least a fourth dimension, time. Probably there is a 5th dimension, but that is only an educated guess.

So, I think the only plausible explanation is kinetic energy.
frankj1
2 years ago

I always tooks "days" to mean Eons or Epochs.

And try as the bible authors did to explain things, they did get the order wrong:

Day 1 - Light. Like the Big Bang

Day 2 - Firmament. Expansion, cooling and the beginning of planetary accretion

Day 3 - Earth, Sea and vegetation. This would be from the the Hadean eon to end of the Archean eon. Like 2.5 billion years.

Day 4 - Sun, moon and stars. Ok, so this happened days 1 through 2, with the moon showing up at the beginning of day 3.

Day 5 - Birds and sea creatures. So birds came after land animals (day 6). But let's just say this was the end of the Proterozoic through the Paleozoic.

Day 6 - Land animals and humans. This would have been a long day with us showing up in the last few moments.



You have to hand it to them that they didn't do so bad for a bunch of sheep herders.

Brewha wrote:



and then Day 7...yay!
how you guys screwed up and called Day 1 the Sabbath still makes the Chosen laff.
Saturday, ya macaroooons.

Prequel...get to know it*


*paraphrasing MrJones
MACS
2 years ago
Like I told my wife (Seventh Day Adventist)... show me anywhere in the old or new testament that states any day of the week as we now know them... Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday or Saturday.

God made the heavens and the Earth. Bible says he did it in 6 days and rested on the seventh. Doesn't say what any of those days were. Man made the calendar. How do we know the first day wasn't Wednesday? How do we know one of God's days is 24 hours? Maybe it's a billion years?

:-k 🤔

Just sayin'...
Brewha
2 years ago

Interesting to say the least. So, let's discuss the big bang. You will have to put up with my miniscule understanding of quantum mechanics. The idea of a multiverse makes my head hurt. Time would have to be parallel and consistent for me, otherwise it is beyond my comprehension. Then there is dark matter. I simply am not ready to accept it based only on gravitational effects. That leaves quantum fluctuations. We could go with that, but I won't. It is my belief that Hilbert space is incompletely defined. There is at least a fourth dimension, time. Probably there is a 5th dimension, but that is only an educated guess.

So, I think the only plausible explanation is kinetic energy.

Speyside2 wrote:



There are a lot of theories in quantum mechanics. Some are only math anomalies that are by no means demonstrated in observation. And don't even get me started on string theory...some people just want to sell ponderous books.

I think if you stick with the Standard Model it makes a lot more sense. Especially if you see that:
Matter and energy appear the same thing in different states.
And that Time is an emergent property of matter (as in Timespace).

The Big Bang was energy and matter exchanging states. "something from nothing" is a misnomer.

Of course yesterday there was nothing in the sky - and than water came from above - out of nothing.
must be one of them miracles I reckon...
Brewha
2 years ago

and then Day 7...yay!
how you guys screwed up and called Day 1 the Sabbath still makes the Chosen laff.
Saturday, ya macaroooons.

Prequel...get to know it*


*paraphrasing MrJones

frankj1 wrote:



What the hell is a chosen laff?

Is that a drink?
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