After Rodgers injury, NFLPA to league: Ditch artificial turf


AP
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — The NFL Players Association wants the league to switch all its fields to natural grass, calling it “the easiest decision the NFL can make.”

Executive director Lloyd Howell issued a statement Wednesday saying NFL players “overwhelmingly prefer it and the data is clear that grass is simply safer than artificial turf.” Howell said the issue “has been near the top of the players’ list during my team visits and one I have raised with the NFL.”

The players’ union called for the change less than 48 hours after a season-ending injury to four-time NFL MVP quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers tore his left Achilles tendon in his debut with the Jets on Monday night.
Howell said in his statement they know there is an investment to making such a change. But he said there’s a bigger cost to the NFL if the league keeps losing its best players to “unnecessary injuries.” He noted the NFL flips surfaces to grass for World Cup or soccer exhibitions.

“But artificial surfaces are acceptable for our own players,” Howell said. “This is worth the investment and it simply needs to change now.”

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Wednesday on ESPN’s “First Take” that the playing surface is a “complex issue,” and part of the collective bargaining agreement covered the use of science to measure injuries. The league and the union use the same data to gauge injuries.

Goodell noted Rodgers had one of two Achilles tendon injuries in the NFL’s first week, with the other on grass.
“That is where we make decisions, on the basis of science, not because I see an injury that I don’t like,” Goodell said.
“Ultimately, I want our experts to come back and give it to us and that is why we have engaged with this process and actually accelerated the process with the NFLPA to be able to get that kind of data so we can make those kinds of decisions.”

The union has asked for all grass fields for years.

The NFLPA in April pointed to studies from 2012-22 that it says show a significant increase in non-contact injuries on artificial surfaces vs. grass fields. The NFL has defended the use of artificial turf, pointing to 2021 when the numbers for injuries on both surfaces were close.

Rodgers argued for grass all over the league last November while with the Packers. He said some artificial surfaces are softer, creating more wobble when the foot hits the ground.

“It’s that wobble that can cause some of these non-contact knee injuries that we’ve seen,” Rodgers said at the time. “I’m not sure if that’s the standard that’s set for that type of surface or it’s the installation of that surface, but a lot of that could be just done away with if we had grass in every stadium.”

Agent Drew Rosenhaus echoed the NFLPA’s demand on social media Wednesday, sharing the union’s post.

“It’s a no brainer,” Rosenhaus wrote. “If the Owners care about their players & want to win, then they will make the switch! I encourage the leaders at the NFL to push for this change. It’s for the good of the players & the game itself.”
A new artificial surface was installed this year at MetLife Stadium. Jets coach Robert Saleh said Tuesday that he didn’t see the surface as being an issue in Rodgers’ injury.

The 39-year-old quarterback got hurt when he was taken down by Bills defender Leonard Floyd.
“If it was a non-contact injury, then I think that would be something to discuss, obviously,” Saleh said. “But that was kind of forceable, I think that was trauma induced. I do know the players prefer grass and there is a lot invested in those young men.”

Bills pass rusher Von Miller blames turf for the ACL injury that has him on the physically unable to perform list to start this season. He joined a campaign to get grass in all NFL stadiums.

Two-time NFL MVP Patrick Mahomes plays on grass in Kansas City and said it’s pretty simple.
“The numbers say that grass is healthier for the players, and I want to play on the surface that keeps me healthy,” Mahomes said.

The Titans will debut the NFL’s newest artificial surface Sunday in their home opener against the Chargers after trying, and struggling, to grow grass in Nashville for 24 seasons. The Titans regularly replaced sod in the middle of the field, especially late in seasons.

Their fake turf features coconut husks and cork instead of rubber pellets. The Titans cited NFL data that put Nissan Stadium among the league leaders for games with players having lower-body injuries.

Weebles wobble but they FALL DOWN ON ARTIFICIAL TURF

Injuries are going to happen. Turf or grass. But they seem to happen more on turf, so they should really dump it.

Aren't you afraid Tank will get hurt in your backyard..?? 😕

Any truth to the rumor that he'll be getting ayahuasca treatments.

Tank..?? 😕

Regardless of how many injuries happen on which surface, iffin’ you just listen to the players, they’ll say that their bodies feel much worse after a game on turf than when they play on grass. You would *think* that player well-being and health are major considerations BUT, money talks and the revenue stadiums can rake in with turf surfaces (…concerts, back-to-back football games, other events…) is probably the biggest reason why the stadiums put in turf in the first place.

Going forward, it’ll be interesting to see if the NFL will mandate grass surfaces whether it’s retrofitted or for new stadiums. The retractable technology to roll the grass in and out of the stadium is here (…Arizona and LV…) so there’s no real excuse for new venues.

He probably already has. The dew claw that broke twice was likely snagged on that turf. *shrug*

He runs around like a crazy man back there.

Many franchises/owners also own their stadium. Football is just part of their revenue stream.
As noted by da crazy Hawaiian, turf is much more forgiving for back to back outdoor concerts, monster truck shows, and all the other sorts of events held at stadiums, that would simply devastate grass.
:-k
That roll out live grass option sounds intriguing however…..

Turf they use today is miles better than the crap from back in the multipurpose stadium days of the 70s and 80s, not even close. That crap was a thing layer of abrasive plastic rug over hard concrete and had nasty seams in it that would help rip your knee or ankles up. This stuff today is as close to grass as possible. There’s far more college stadiums these guys are playing in and don’t seem to have the problems these guys are bitching about.

Roll out chour deeeead
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Grass

Live Green grass don't likes to get rolled up...

Athsetetically, the turf looks pristine.

I'd like them to go back to grass on dirt. Loved the rain and mud games. Guy gets smoked and slides through mud and slop.

Old time football, coach!

aaaaand, grass don't get to 140 degrees F

without researching to see if things have changed recently, I believe almost no NFL owners also own their home fields.
Kraft owns Foxboro, maybe a couple of others...?

During the 1990s, Michael Irvin, Nate Newton, and most of the Dallas Cowboys played on grass.

Lambeau Field has a hybrid mix of synthetic and natural turf. Its a called SIS Grass. 95% grass and 5% synthetic fibers stitched in.

The soil below is almost entirely made of sand for good drainage. The "stitched" in synthetic fibers are there to stabilize the sand. The turf is then infilled with crumbs of rubber for additional cushion. A lot of all soccer pitches around the world use the same thing.

No, they played on powder, didn’t use the grass until after the games…

https://professionalshq.com/do-sports-teams-own-their-stadiums-mostly-no-heres-why/#:~:text=The%20stadium%20is%20usually%20owned,property%20taxes%20on%20the%20stadium .

Coulda sworn Texas Stadium had an Astroturf field (…or something akin to it…).

It did, the ‘joke’ went over your head.