MACS
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 1:57:05 PM
Tough call, there 8trizzle...

Maybe go along for emotional support and point out the pros/cons of each vehicle she looks at. Let her make the decision after you've pointed those things out... and then when she decides, assist in negotiations. 🤔

rfenst
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 2:49:05 PM
My best friend Jeff just called me.

His childhood buddy has been Jerry Seinfeld's manager or agent or something for like the last 25 years.

Every time Jeff has gone, he has had awesome tickets and gone backstage afterwards. It's in Tampa at the Hard Rock Casino.

And, I am going for free!!! =d>

delta1
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 2:54:04 PM
👍 🍺
rfenst
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 3:04:04 PM
8trizzle...

Depending on her age and finances, she might be better off with a lease.

Factory-set price. No haggling. Cheaper each month than buying, builds equity (at least Honda's do). I did this for my mom who is 85. Who knows if she'll even be driving in three years?

I have had like 4 new cars over the last 7 years. I have never put a single penny down on a lease. and have rolled my equity over each lease. I presently have $6,000 in equity and have moved up 2 levels to a very nice car that is just 2.5 years old.

Also, this is a great time of year to get a good deal on a 2003 model.

Others will disagree with this. YMMV.

Stogie1020
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 3:52:43 PM
[quote=rfenst]8trizzle...

Depending on her age and finances, she might be better off with a lease.

Factory-set price. No haggling. Cheaper each month than buying, builds equity (at least Honda's do). I did this for my mom who is 85. Who knows if she'll even be driving in three years?

I have had like 4 new cars over the last 7 years. I have never put a single penny down on a lease. and have rolled my equity over each lease. I presently have $6,000 in equity and have moved up 2 levels to a very nice car that is just 2.5 years old.

Also, this is a great time of year to get a good deal on a 2003 model.

Others will disagree with this. YMMV.[/quote]

Dang, you are living large, Robert....

😁

HockeyDad
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 3:55:17 PM
Need to make sure the car is electric.
Gene363
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:01:17 PM
[quote=rfenst]8trizzle...

Depending on her age and finances, she might be better off with a lease.

Factory-set price. No haggling. Cheaper each month than buying, builds equity (at least Honda's do). I did this for my mom who is 85. Who knows if she'll even be driving in three years?

I have had like 4 new cars over the last 7 years. I have never put a single penny down on a lease. and have rolled my equity over each lease. I presently have $6,000 in equity and have moved up 2 levels to a very nice car that is just 2.5 years old.

Also, this is a great time of year to get a good deal on a 2003 model.

Others will disagree with this. YMMV.[/quote]

I'm not a fan of leasing, but you make a good argument for this situation.

MACS
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 5:46:01 PM
Yes. Leasing benefits the dealer. Always. You pay for a car you have to give back and then they sell it at a profit. If you put too many miles, you pay for that, too.

The point is to own and drive a car free and clear, right?

Now... in this situation... it may actually be a decent idea. IF the down/monthly is right.

Ram27
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 6:41:51 PM
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[quote=Ram27]One Zero NEINER [ram27bat] [/quote]

One after 109

(Not quite the exact number but Beatles fans should get this)

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rfenst
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 7:44:36 PM
[quote=MACS]Yes. Leasing benefits the dealer. Always. You pay for a car you have to give back and then they sell it at a profit. If you put too many miles, you pay for that, too.

The point is to own and drive a car free and clear, right?

Now... in this situation... it may actually be a decent idea. IF the down/monthly is right.[/quote]

You do have a right to an end-of-lease buyout at the end that, in the case of every Honda we have ever owned (like 15), has resulted in the value exceeding the fixed buy-out price. Equity, so to speak. Built up with zero down...

You can make sure your lease includes enough miles to suit your need inexpensively...

And, if you don't buy out a Honda at the end of the lease, they let you lease it 6-12 months longer, which decreases the buyout price dollar for dollar and gives additional flexibility at a guaranteed monthly payment rate.

But, we have been over this before and YMMV!

(Amended)

BuckyB93
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 9:26:33 PM
Damnit, I misplaced my reading glasses. I had them about an hour ago but forgot where I set them down. I have a couple backup pairs somewhere but they are eluding me.

Could go to Wallyworld and pick up another set but it's not an emergency. Maybe just place another order to Amazon,

Speaking or WallyWorld, it's the end of the summer and beginning of fall. I need a new grill, They probably have a clearance sale on them but not the best for true smokers. I prefer charcoal but a small propane grill will probably fit the bill for steaks, burgers, hot dogs, chicken and stuff (throw a smoker box in there with the desired wood chips)

I'll also need a small smoker, I miss smoking the meat.

dkeage
Wednesday, September 27, 2023 9:35:36 PM
[quote=BuckyB93]Damnit, I misplaced my reading glasses. I had them about an hour ago but forgot where I set them down. I have a couple backup pairs somewhere but they are eluding me.

Could go to Wallyworld and pick up another set but it's not an emergency. Maybe just place another order to Amazon,

Speaking or WallyWorld, it's the end of the summer and beginning of fall. I need a new grill, They probably have a clearance sale on them but not the best for true smokers. I prefer charcoal but a small propane grill will probably fit the bill for steaks, burgers, hot dogs, chicken and stuff (throw a smoker box in there with the desired wood chips)

I'll also need a small smoker, I miss smoking the meat.[/quote]

Man……[-(

deadeyedick
Thursday, September 28, 2023 8:25:55 AM
Wake up!

Buncha lazy bastids.

8trackdisco
Thursday, September 28, 2023 8:31:00 AM
Four dealerships, a couple of test drives, one negotiation.

We all know the world has changed, and changing so fast, we are all falling behind whether we realize it or not.

What mom can't get a grip on how the pricing landscape has changed so much in the last five years. Like wanting Chipotle meal on a single, Taco Bell burrito budget.

During the negotiations on a 2015 Ford Escape, they went through the "8 Point Inspction". 8? Even on our shpo's oil change check list there are 20 things they look at. Hmmm.

We agreed in principle to a deal, with the caveat of it passing the an inspection at my shop.

Upon arrival, our best mechanic sees the year, make, and model and says "Nope. Don't do it. Bring it back. This year make and model is nothing but problems. Coolent leaks, leading to cracked blocks. The transmisions are sketchy, the transfer cases are garbage. You are looking at $7,000 just in parts. 10k with labor and all the other bs,"

Tough spot to be in. Asked him to give it a look as mom and I went out for lunch. Wasn't 15 minutes later got the call and returned.

The coolent basin was completely dry, and he also confirmed there were no leaks. So much for the 8 Point Inspection. Told me to take the vehicle back immediately and get your downpayment back which we did and are back to Square 1.

danmdevries
Thursday, September 28, 2023 9:30:56 AM
Put in an application for a new job last night. PACU/recovery room. I more just want to ask a thousand questions than I want to try hard in an interview to take the job. I really don't want to give up my week on week off schedule. But it's just getting harder and harder the older I get. Nightshift and bedside in general. It's not something I particularly want to do but my job description/ duties are changing again in a month and it's just too much. I'll 99% sure I'll make no change eat my chit sammich and complain about the flies. But I'm looking.

I'm not willing to compromise on my less than minimum wage job with gridlife so I need a schedule that at the least I can get regular 4-5 day stretches off. I really enjoy that job and being a part of it from a conversation around a campfire to where we are today. That job gives me a sense of purpose and satisfaction that I don't think I can get in my paid job. So if I can't be sure of scheduling I'm not going to move.

Ram27
Thursday, September 28, 2023 9:40:12 AM
Morning one & all.

Eight I hope you can find a decent vehicle & soon.

Good luck danm on what you decide.

Gene363
Thursday, September 28, 2023 10:26:59 AM
Good Thursday Morning to All! It's an overcast 64° on the way to 79° today.
deadeyedick
Thursday, September 28, 2023 11:54:22 AM
8track, why not ask your mechanic for a list of used cars/suv that he thinks you should be looking for?
rfenst
Thursday, September 28, 2023 12:32:09 PM
[quote=8trackdisco]Four dealerships, a couple of test drives, one negotiation.

We all know the world has changed, and changing so fast, we are all falling behind whether we realize it or not.

What mom can't get a grip on how the pricing landscape has changed so much in the last five years. Like wanting Chipotle meal on a single, Taco Bell burrito budget.

During the negotiations on a 2015 Ford Escape, they went through the "8 Point Inspction". 8? Even on our shpo's oil change check list there are 20 things they look at. Hmmm.

We agreed in principle to a deal, with the caveat of it passing the an inspection at my shop.

Upon arrival, our best mechanic sees the year, make, and model and says "Nope. Don't do it. Bring it back. This year make and model is nothing but problems. Coolent leaks, leading to cracked blocks. The transmisions are sketchy, the transfer cases are garbage. You are looking at $7,000 just in parts. 10k with labor and all the other bs,"

Tough spot to be in. Asked him to give it a look as mom and I went out for lunch. Wasn't 15 minutes later got the call and returned.

The coolent basin was completely dry, and he also confirmed there were no leaks. So much for the 8 Point Inspection. Told me to take the vehicle back immediately and get your downpayment back which we did and are back to Square 1.[/quote]

Used Honda with a factory warranty to 100k miles? CRV is a GREAT car! So is the Accord if the seat isn't too low for her.