Brewha's Tesla makes fart noises... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

My Uber to the airport is a Tesla.

HockeyDad wrote:

That will be seen as “fake news” by those here that have told us that EVs are “not viable”.

Brewha wrote:

Sales of Ford’s F-150 Lightning are down by almost half; VW’s CEO warns of doom – for VW – if the public can’t be cajoled into buying the EV-only lineup it has already committed itself to. Even Tesla has had to resort to internally subsidizing its EVs in order to sell more of them.

These amount to what cops call clues – that the Great Transition is stalling.

Naturally, it must not be allowed to stall. So says a writer for the car site, Jalopnik – which (oddly) seems to regard cars and those who like them with contempt. The writer – Rory Carroll – says that “allowing the ‘free market’ (bracketed within air fingers contempt marks) to decide if (sic) EVs take off seems a little risky.”

In other words, the people buying cars cannot be allowed to choose for themselves which cars best suit their needs – and finances.

It is not enough – for car journalists (sic) such as Carroll and the people who agree with him – that they are free to choose whatever kind of car suits their needs – and finances. Everyone else must be cornholed into “choosing” – air-fingers-quote marks properly applied – the kind of car that suits them, no matter what it costs us.

This cost is a necessary one, says Carroll – because to not be forced to buy an electric vehicle is like the horror of allowing people to choose whether to wear an idiot rag, aka the Face Diaper that people like Carroll similarly insisted everyone should be forced to wear.

He writes:

“Living through Covid, where Americans more or less chose/are choosing to ignore a pandemic and do little to nothing in response didn’t make me more confident that they’d be inclined to respond when faced with extinction. “

“Faced with extinction”?

More...

https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2023/10/23/when-the-ev-revolution-stalls/ 

Oh, they're viable!

They let the entire world know that inside is an entitled self-serving douchebag driver!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Prior to this past weekend, I had exactly zero actual personal experience with EVs.

This past weekend, I attended a family function out of town and lot's of relatives also attended. At the rental counter, a few of them were told "You can wait 3-4 hours for an ICE rental or take a plug-in now." One person took them up on it. They barely made it to the hotel with all kinds of range warnings, low battery notices, etc.

That one person spent the majority of the four day visit attending to charging, finding (or not) a place to charge, getting rides to/from chargers so she could leave her car to charge while actually, you know, visiting with people, etc. She (and a few others at the start of the weekend) were excited and looking forward to making their next cars plug-in electrics. At the end of the weekend, to a person, they all said "hell no..."

Stogie1020 wrote:

Prior to this past weekend, I had exactly zero actual personal experience with EVs.

This past weekend, I attended a family function out of town and lot's of relatives also attended. At the rental counter, a few of them were told "You can wait 3-4 hours for an ICE rental or take a plug-in now." One person took them up on it. They barely made it to the hotel with all kinds of range warnings, low battery notices, etc.

That one person spent the majority of the four day visit attending to charging, finding (or not) a place to charge, getting rides to/from chargers so she could leave her car to charge while actually, you know, visiting with people, etc. She (and a few others at the start of the weekend) were excited and looking forward to making their next cars plug-in electrics. At the end of the weekend, to a person, they all said "hell no..."

Stogie1020 wrote:

That's kind of a strange story Stogie.

She rented a car and had to drive 150-250 miles to her destination and never made a 15-20 minute stop at a supercharger?
She was driving 200 miles each day?

Couldn't have been a Tesla - they charge fast and have chargers most everywhere. Where were you guys anyway?

Brewha wrote:

It was a Hyundai EV and we were north of Austin, TX with a lot of highway driving (and stopping) to get places.

Sorry-not-sorry a real world experience doesn't fit your personal narrative.

Stogie1020 wrote:

Well, that contradicts what Brewha is sayin! Kinda is right in the wheelhouse of what I've been saying all along. Wonder who's really right? Bet they wished they'd waited though, and they didn' get the "cool" upgrades that make it fart with White Claw holders all around!!![whip]

They're trendy little "look at me" mobiles for the Kardashians of the World.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

I'm not negative on the whole EV thing, I think it has benefits in certain areas of things. It has it's niche based on current technology but it has a long way to go to be a viable replacement for ICE anytime soon.

For local last mile type of needs it can work but it ain't gonna work for much beyond that at is stands now. It won't work for most of the common everyday folks. You can fill up a gas tank in under 5 min and have the range that beats most EVs plus you find a gas station even in the smallest town in the country. One thing that is not mentioned is maintenance. How many car fix it shops work on EVs? If you live in a large city or the burbs of a large city you can maybe find a couple of them. If you don't you're $hit out of luck.

Battery technology has a ways to go. Infrastructure of the electrical grid to support them has a ways to go. Charging stations have a ways to go. Do we stop working on improvements in these areas? Nope. It will cost billions of dollar to even get it as a viable solution for 98.5% of the people.

Until EVs and all the stuff involved to support them are proven, it should not be blindly mandated by any government to do so. Phase it in as things are proven and support reality. And when I say proven, I mean a realistic proven and reliable alternative,

BuckyB93 wrote: