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2 years ago
Republican presidential candidates again traded pointed barbs onstage during the party’s third primary debate on Wednesday night.


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As in the two previous debates, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy lashed out not only against his opponents but also the Republican Party leadership, Ukraine and even the debate’s moderators. And while most candidates shied away from criticizing former president Donald Trump — who holds a commanding lead in polling and did not participate in the debate — former New Jersey governor Chris Christie went after him, arguing that someone who faces as many indictments as the former president should not be the Republican nominee for president.

'I wear heels. They’re not for a fashion statement. They’re for ammunition.’
That was what former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley said in response to entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, who made a dig at her and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — and their choice of footwear.

“Do you want a leader from a different generation [who] is going to put this country first, or do you want ****** Cheney in three-inch heels onstage?” Ramaswamy said. “In which case, we’ve got two of them onstage tonight.”

Ramaswamy’s comment was a clear reference not only to Haley — the only woman on the stage, and the only candidate clearly wearing high heels — but also to DeSantis, who faces allegations that he wears boots with added insoles to make him appear taller.

Haley wasted no time in snapping back at Ramaswamy: “I wear heels. They’re not for a fashion statement. They’re for ammunition.”

Christie — the resident Trump critic among the Republicans running for president in 2024 — did not hold back on Wednesday when speaking about Trump and his legal troubles.

“I’ll say this about Donald Trump: Anybody who’s going to be spending the next year and a half of their life focusing on keeping themselves out of jail and courtrooms cannot lead this party or this country,” Christie said.

Christie has sought to establish distance between him and Trump — despite once being a close ally of the former president.

‘Leave my daughter out of your voice. … You’re just scum.’
Haley told Ramaswamy to keep her daughter’s name “out of your voice” during a contentious moment on the debate stage.

Ramaswamy was asked how he could ban TikTok — the popular Chinese-owned social media app that has drawn scrutiny across the U.S. government — if he is an active user himself.

Before explaining that the social media platform is important to reach younger generations of Americans, Ramaswamy replied to a moderator’s question that he wanted to “laugh at why Nikki Haley didn’t answer your question, which is about looking at families in the eye.”

“In the last debate she made fun of me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time,” he said. “So you might want to take care of your family first.”

As the crowd loudly booed Ramaswamy, an angry Haley told Ramaswamy to leave her daughter, who is 25, out of it.

“Leave my daughter out of your voice,” she said. “You’re just scum.”

This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk’
Ramaswamy also attacked the debate moderators — NBC News anchors Lester Holt and Kristen Welker, and radio host Hugh Hewitt. Ramaswamy appeared to suggest that it was disappointing that the Republican Party would work with NBC News, which is not a conservative network.

“Think about who’s moderating this debate,” Ramaswamy said. “This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk — we’d have 10 times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about bringing more people into our party.”

Ramaswamy has built a campaign around framing himself as the next generation’s Trump and has long blasted the “mainstream media.” He has aligned himself with some of the most right-wing networks, but has appeared as a guest across networks.

[Ukraine] has celebrated a Nazi in its ranks, a comedian in cargo pants — a man called Zelensky’
Ramaswamy did not stop at blasting the moderators. The entrepreneur also lashed out against Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky — who is leading his nation in its war against Russia — by calling him a Nazi.

“[Ukraine] has celebrated a Nazi in its ranks, a comedian in cargo pants — a man called Zelensky,” Ramaswamy said. Zelensky himself is Jewish, and this is a frequent Russian conspiracy theory used to attack him.

For months, Ramaswamy has criticized U.S. support for the Ukrainian war effort and opposed proposals to send more funds to the war-torn nation.

“Ukraine is not a paragon of Democracy,” Ramaswamy said during the debate.

‘Putin and President Xi are salivating at the thought that someone like that could become president’
In response to Ramaswamy’s multiple attacks on Ukraine, Haley said the leaders of Russia and China are “salivating” at the thought of someone like him winning the presidency. Earlier in the debate, Ramaswamy had called Haley a “war hawk” on Ukraine.

“I am telling you: [Vladimir] Putin and President Xi [Jinping] are salivating at the thought that someone like that could become president,” Haley said of Ramaswamy.

‘We’ve become a party of losers’
Ramaswamy also took aim at the Republican Party broadly and its chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, saying there’s a “cancer in the Republican establishment.”

“We’ve become a party of losers,” he said. “I mean, since Ronna McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018, 2020, 2022.”

Ramaswamy pointed to the major losses Republicans suffered in Tuesday’s elections — including a Democratic governor winning reelection in ruby-red Kentucky and Democrats winning control of both chambers of the Virginia legislature in a blow to Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin (and to the buzz around his presidential ambitions).

“We got trounced last night in 2023,” Ramaswamy said. “And I think that we have to have accountability in our party.”
RayR
2 years ago
Nikki Haley is a warmonger and a war profiteer. ****** Cheney 2.0.

Listen to Vivek on the Tom Woods Show. It's better than reading sound bites in WAPO.

Vivek: "Let's Avoid World War III"

Vivek Ramaswamy joins us to discuss avoiding World War III, as well as his recent clash with other GOP candidates over free speech.

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ZRX1200
2 years ago
Establishment Haley’s “heels” comment was cringy, NOT mic droppy.

Vivek dominated. Scott could put a meth head to sleep. The NJ Blob is a NE version of Jeb Bush…he should quit. But hey look what not quitting a far lost race did for Kamala. He sucks as much as her, just not the same way.
RayR
2 years ago
Nikki Haley gets ROASTED! 🔥

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MACS
2 years ago
Vivek is not a republican. He's not conservative.

I don't trust that mother forker as far as I can spit into a headwind.
8trackdisco
2 years ago
Ramaswamy had my attention initially, but like Shawn, don’t trust him. Taking a shot at Haley’s daughter was classless. He’s trying to be the edgy kid at the party hoping his wildcard act will get him laid by somebody at the end of the night.

The act is played. Now he’s simply Swarmy.

Also not sure why Tim Scott is still there.

In a primary, at this moment, I’d vote either RFK Jr or Haley. Probably Haley. Checks a lot of boxes to get some Blue votes.
- Female.
- Foreign policy experience.
- A Person Of Color (although I had no idea she was ‘colored’).
- Is trying to shake up the old, white, male, republicans to the reality of most Americans don’t want their uterus governed by them.

Noticed there weren’t any threads here after the Tuesday elections where Red State Ohio chose abortion rights and Virginia went Blue in the state House and Senate after the Gov moved to the “left” pushing a 15 week abortion law.

How did that go?

It’s the Far Right Redumblicans which look like they are going to hang the Abortion Albatros around their own necks and ruin their chances in 2024.

Be funny to learn how many abortions have been paid for by Republicans and especially Trump.
RayR
2 years ago

Vivek is not a republican. He's not conservative.

I don't trust that mother forker as far as I can spit into a headwind.

MACS wrote:



He's not a conservative? 😕 Then what is he?
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2 years ago

It's better than reading sound bites in WAPO.

RayR wrote:


Wrong.
I actually watched it.
rfenst
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2 years ago

Establishment Haley’s “heels” comment was cringy, NOT mic droppy.

Vivek dominated. Scott could put a meth head to sleep. The NJ Blob is a NE version of Jeb Bush…he should quit. But hey look what not quitting a far lost race did for Kamala. He sucks as much as her, just not the same way.

ZRX1200 wrote:


Scott is as dull as a rock.

I think the only reason the Blob is running is to rag on Trump and his supporters.
He knows he can't win, but would never admit it.
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2 years ago

Vivek is not a republican. He's not conservative.

I don't trust that mother forker as far as I can spit into a headwind.

MACS wrote:


Well said.
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2 years ago
@6

Haley gets my primary vote as of now.
And, the silence here was exactly what was expected.
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He's not a conservative? 😕 Then what is he?

RayR wrote:


P.O.S. on his way to conviction.
ZRX1200
2 years ago
Her daughter is freaking 25……

Haley attacked him for using Tik Tok. This his swipe. Doesn’t make it right but the context matters.
MACS
2 years ago

He's not a conservative? 😕 Then what is he?

RayR wrote:



A big Pharma CEO. A democrat plant. Check out his history. He's a leftard.
MACS
2 years ago

@6

Haley gets my primary vote as of now.
And, the silence here was exactly what was expected.

rfenst wrote:



Nope, nope and more nope... She's backed by Klaus Schwab and the WEF. Screw that noise.
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2 years ago

Nope, nope and more nope... She's backed by Klaus Schwab and the WEF. Screw that noise.

MACS wrote:


What's the matter? You didn't get an invitation again last year? I'll see what I can do...
In the meantime, go ahead and vote for your favorite, on-the-way-to-being-convicted, crook.
Gene363
2 years ago

The republican party should check into rehab for addiction to losing.

RayR
2 years ago

A big Pharma CEO. A democrat plant. Check out his history. He's a leftard.

MACS wrote:



He started Roivant and was CEO until he stepped down. I don't see how Roivant is on the same level as Pfizer and Moderna anyway.

He wrote the book “Woke, Inc." where he excoriates all progressive politics and corporate wokeism He hates the bureaucratic state and wants to tear it down. That's kind of weird for a democrat plant and a leftard. 🤨

rfenst 💗 warmonger and war profiteer Nimarata Haley and would rather read sound bites in WAPO than listen to Vivek's paleoconservative and libertarian leaning attacks on the swamp status quo. Nimarata Haley wouldn’t be caught dead on the programs that Ramaswamy frequents, including the libertarian Tom Woods Show. Nimarata Haley is more like "compassionate conservative" George W. Bush who will cave to the desires of butthurt LEFTIES.
MACS
2 years ago

What's the matter? You didn't get an invitation again last year? I'll see what I can do...
In the meantime, go ahead and vote for your favorite, on-the-way-to-being-convicted, crook.

rfenst wrote:



You're a lawyer. So the lawsuit in NY... the AG is the complainant, no? He borrowed money and paid back the loans. Even if he DID overestimate the collateral value... who is the injured party? It's bullsheit.

You know it. I know it.

In GA... same deal. It's lefties prosecuting the chief rival they absolutely know they will lose to if he gets to run again. That's why the full court press. They cannot let him run. He will win and they know it.

What is better under Biden, aside from no mean tweets? Anything?

Nope.
RayR
2 years ago
This is great, McClanahan the consummate real conservative nails it again. Vivek was the best candidate on stage, Nikki Haley is "in many ways a despicable person", Tim Scott is a dope. And more. Robert will hate it. 😂

The Most Important Question for Presidential Candidates

Brion McClanahan
11/10/23

The President of the United States has one primary job: foreign policy. That's why it should be the only question asked during any "presidential debate."

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