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Brewha
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2 years ago

#901

Putting numbers and functionality aside, that truck is efn uggly with 2 g's.

BuckyB93 wrote:

It's true - most folks say just that - no argument.

Then again, I never say anyone admiring the striking beauty of a Ford F-150....(It's a truck!)

MACS
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2 years ago

#902

You drive 500 miles without stopping? If you took a family camping you'd be lucky to get 200 miles without stopping! 😂

Any campground that takes an RV has a 240 volt plug.

Yeah sure - no one is buying EVs - sure.

You Sir, have no clue - only YouTube.

Brewha wrote:

2 of those articles are USA Today. And there are any number of podcasts on YouTube that I would trust more than the media.

If I do stop for a pee break or to refuel, I can resume my trip in 10 minutes, not hours. And there are any number of places to refuel, I don't have to plan my trip around refueling.

Brewha
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2 years ago

#903

MACS wrote:

It's kind of like it's the 80s and were are talking about having a cell phone. They are not viable; can't do the job, takes all night to charge, costs too much, "the wireless grid would never support everyone having one".
But things changed my friend.

I'm sure an EV truck is not for you. For a variety of reasons including the "shame" you would endure of having an electric. no biggie. Hey, enjoy the no pee break trips in the Hemi.

Articles notwithstanding, after a year and a half I fuggin love the EV. Cheaper, faster and way better tech than most anyone. What's not to love?

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DrMaddVibe
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2 years ago

#904

Wait - how long have you been racing trucks?

NASCAR?

Are NASCAR truck drivers tards?
People will want to know.

Brewha wrote:

Only a loon like you would stoop to find a sport (when in reality I was referencing street racing) with lower attendance than Curling matches and WNBA games. Comprehensive thought was never your strong suit, you're more of a feeling trendy fella. Most likely a clot shot side effect.

Nobody is going to a dealership and purchasing trucks thinking they're Corvettes, 300zx or European sportscars. Nobody GAF how fast you go in an EV because that speed will sap your mileage. Hell, even AC and running the heater do that! Add a towing/payload that would rival a Ford Explorer isn't what truck owners need or want.

You should totally go out and buy a Musk truck. Nobody can accuse you of trying to over compensate for some smallness.

Brewha
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2 years ago

#905

I think the Cybertruck highlights the problem the big 3 US car makers have with EV’s.

Love it or hate it, the Cybertruck is monument to new ground braking technology, materials and manufacturing techniques.
For Ford and GM, the best they can do is take the decades old truck designs they have and swap motors - with a battery pack stuck in the frame. Their costs are high and the products are marginal. But for Tesla, as we have seen, the price will drop considerably in years to come, and it the best tech of the day.

They have been so focused on selling old designs, that they really can’t just engineer truly new things. Hell, they hardly make any of their cars or trucks. They really just assemble them.

Hyundai on the other hand is adapting with bespoke vehicles that are targeted at people who want them. GM rushes to market with the Hummer EV (wtf?).

The big three are in for a tough road ahead. And they are not helping themselves.

DrMaddVibe
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2 years ago

#906

The EV fiasco has descended into farce. Just ask Hertz

You might not want to buy an electric car because they have such a high purchase price, but you wouldn’t mind renting one for a short trip, surely? Then you can enjoy the fabled lower fuel costs, the terrific acceleration and smooth running of an EV without the pain of what can often be high monthly repayments.

Alas, that is not how American customers of car rental giant Hertz appear to see it. The company in the US is disposing of the 20,000 EVs it bought with great fanfare in recent years, and is replacing them with petrol models. Some of the Teslas, which are no more than two years old, have been listed for sale at $14,000 – little more than a third of their $40,000 price tag when new. The company says it will take a loss of $245 million but it seems to have little choice given the lack of demand from customers and the vehicles’ higher repair costs.

What a difference from October 2021 when the company ordered 100,000 Teslas, sending the car company’s shares surging by 5 per cent. But it is indicative of a more widespread malaise in the fortunes of electric cars. Over the past year, figures from the Society for Motor Manufacturers and Traders revealed a steep fall in interest from private buyers. Now it seems that fleet buyers are having second thoughts, too.

Hertz to sell 20,000 EVs from U.S. fleet for gas-powered vehicles

It is all coming at a terrible time for the government and the car industry in Britain. Since 1 January, when the Zero Emission Vehicle mandate came into effect, car manufacturers have been under an obligation to ensure that 22 per cent of the vehicles they sell are pure electric (a proportion which will rise steadily by 80 per cent by 2030). If they fail, they could be liable for huge fines.

Yet as is becoming increasingly clear in so many areas, the Government’s Net Zero ambitions are running well ahead of public appetite. People might tell opinion pollsters that they are all square behind Net Zero policies, but it is a different story when it comes to signing on the dotted line for a new EV or a heat pump (neither of which, by the way, will really get the country anywhere close to Net Zero emissions, even with universal take-up, because their manufacture involves significant carbon emissions, as generation of electricity still does).

I’m no petrol-head. I will very happily dump my old diesel for an EV when someone can sell me one that does at least 500 miles between charges, takes around 10 minutes to charge and costs no more to buy or insure than a petrol or diesel car. As for the oft-made assertion that I could save on running costs over the lifetime of an EV, I’ll believe that when I see a genuine comparison between electric and petrol. Trouble is, almost all the comparisons presented by the electric car lobby ignore the huge differential in tax – the fact that around half of what you pay for a gallon of petrol is tax whereas if you charge your EV at home you will pay only 5 per cent VAT. That advantage isn’t going to last, because the Government isn’t going to sit back and watch £28 billion of revenue from fuel duty evaporate.

Like everything to do with Net Zero, electric cars are being pushed at us too hard and too fast. One day, they may very well become ubiquitous, but as Hertz experience shows, they are not yet even nearly ready.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/12/the-ev-fiasco-has-descended-into-farce-just-ask-hertz/

This is the market taking care of itself. Not some forced down your throat mandate. Pretty soon people will have to decide if the Constitution and the Bill of Rights define and lead this nation. Right now we're seeing people gleefully doing whatever because they tell you to, or they know better and then my personal fave...its for the children/grandma...etc. Willingly. Bragging about it too. The EPA raising the MPG a car must have for decades all while making it "greener" is the same as the CDC telling you to take a shot, get boosted...forever! Then again, one doesn't have to search far on this forum for those that do exactly that and tell you...you that knows you...they know better and your POV means nothing. Even if it's factually proven to be correct.

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ZRX1200
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2 years ago

#907

So Brady isn’t getting an EV?

#letsgo

RayR
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2 years ago

#908

Brewha should have waited, he could have picked up a slightly used Tesla and saved a boatload of cash.

ZRX1200
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2 years ago

#909

Waiting for the market to fart out is an option😟

RayR
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2 years ago

#910

This is an interesting read...

The Electric Vehicle Scam Grows

January 9, 2024 By Erik Root

As electric vehicle (EV) owners are now frequently discovering, manufacturers, including Tesla, do not stand by their products and the vehicles they produce can be quite dangerous. There have been multiple cases now where minor damage to the battery compartment of an EV has resulted in voiding the warranty of a vehicle, so the owner is on the hook for the entire and extremely costly repair. In addition, vehicle fires continue to be a subject of real concern for EV owners.

Two recent EV debacles should catch our attention.

More...

https://chroniclesmagazine.org/web/the-electric-vehicle-scam-grows/

Whistlebritches
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2 years ago

#911

EV's are on the downhill slide.............just ask Hertz,they have way more experience in this arena than that dumbazz Brewha

Brewha
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2 years ago

#912

EV's are on the downhill slide.............just ask Hertz,they have way more experience in this arena than that dumbazz Brewha

Whistlebritches wrote:

When you name call like a snot nosed kid it underscores your inability to discuss a topic.

That said, as the numbers for EV’s continues to grow and accelerate YOY, we can all witness your clairvoyance in the matter….

ZRX1200
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2 years ago

#913

What do you think the market saturation point is when urban buyers slow?

Abrignac
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2 years ago

#914

Brewha wrote:

"Nothing. No juice. Still on zero percent," said Tyler Beard, who has been trying to recharge his Tesla at an Oak Brook Tesla supercharging station since Sunday afternoon. "And this is like three hours being out here after being out here three hours yesterday."

https://www.aol.com/news/tesla-supercharging-station-packed-oak-233049495.html

Still not ready for prime time.

ZRX1200
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2 years ago

#915

They can also be hard to get into when it’s super cold.

Abrignac
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2 years ago

#916

They can also be hard to get into when it’s super cold.

ZRX1200 wrote:

I wonder if it’s similar to getting in a cold heated woman?

ZRX1200
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2 years ago

#917

Hearted?

Abrignac
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2 years ago

#918

Hearted?

ZRX1200 wrote:

Other parts as well?

Abrignac
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2 years ago

#919

Well Brew has been lurking for a few minutes on the thread. Wonder what he’ll add.

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Brewha
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2 years ago

#920

Anyone who was in Chicago recently witnessed a bunch of stranded Tesla’s. I guess there’s no contingency for cold weather as many, many Tesla owners discovered their batteries won’t charge during the current cold snap.

https://www.aol.com/news/tesla-supercharging-station-packed-oak-233049495.html

Still not ready for prime time.

Abrignac wrote:

Guessing is exactly what that article asks the reader to do. And we are to guess that EV's are don't work in cold weather.
But they do. It appears that if you run the battery to near empty in -17 degree weather, and put yourself in a position to have to charge at a station in the cold (not too bright) than yes - it's gonna be a problem.

But there will always be people who run out of gas.

Maybe the truth is that people are not ready for EV's.....

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