Republicans had an opportunity to run someone who could have easily beat Biden. Instead they chose a demagogue who will energize the opposition.

Fifty percent of something is better than 💯 of nothing.

SMH

EXACTLY how I feel about BOTH parties at this point.

Welcome to the age of extremism.

100% agree, and this goes for BOTH parties... Both are choosing to run terrible Candidates... either could win... If RFK picks Rogers then he will take votes from Trump and probably give the election to Biden.

i am really interested to see who Trump Pics as a VP, Biden should Drop Kamala but who to replace her with? it has to be a minority and/or women or the backlash would be HUGE. Nikki Haley? that could be interesting...

You gonna go out to mame and kill people just because their politics differ from yours? Even when they are unarmed and not involved in physical conflict?




Will Political Hatred Spill Into the Streets?
The atmosphere in Biden-Trump America carries the odor of Weimar Germany or Chicago in 1968.


WSJ Opinion
My mother hated Richard Nixon. She knew him when they were both young in Washington in the 1940s. He was an ambitious young congressman from California, and she wrote a weekly column for the Knight Syndicate and occasional articles for the Saturday Evening Post. They would sometimes run into each other at political dinners, like the one at the Shoreham Hotel one night when they both got a little drunk. Nixon couldn’t hold his liquor—his dark eyes, almost obsidian, would look wet, and he would slur a bit. My mother thought she could outdrink any man living. “******,” she told him, “you ought to get out of politics. You don’t like people, so why don’t you do everyone a favor and give it up?”

Nixon called my father next morning at his office and said in that growling basso of his: “Hugh, can’t you control your wife?”

The family thought the story was funny—typical Nixon, typical Mom—and passed it along down the years. But my mother’s hatred was serious and enduring. She really hated Nixon, and the hatred became, as it were, an aspect of her personality. Lots of people felt hatred toward Nixon. Hers lasted until her death in 2008. If I had mentioned his name to her on her death bed, her last words would have been: “That son of a bitch!”

I’m fascinated by politicians who are capable of arousing that kind of personal loathing. It’s the negative side of charisma—political magnetism as a repellent force, a pure distillate, well beyond the ambit of manners or compromise, demonic almost. The antimatter of politics.

Franklin D. Roosevelt brought forth that sort of hatred, especially on Wall Street: “That man!” was the withering understatement. Those of us who lived through the 1960s recall the visceral, unappeasable hatred that many Americans, especially young men vulnerable to the draft, felt for Lyndon Johnson. “Hey, hey, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?” The rage and loathing spilled into the streets during the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago. It was on Michigan Avenue outside the Hilton that I witnessed the purest and most violent demonstration of the kind of political hatred I’m talking about: National Guardsmen on one side of the barbed wire, Yippies and hippies and other ragamuffins on the other, most wearing football helmets to protect their skulls against what they knew was coming.

Sure enough, the spectacle of mutual political hatred enacted itself with the precision of Newton’s third law of motion: for every action, an equal and opposite reaction. The protesters provoked; the cops poured out of Balbo Drive, a side street, waving riot clubs. They went to work on the football helmets or unprotected skull bones of the young. Blood flowed.

Likability and loathability, a political version of the good-cop-bad-cop routine, alternate in an approximate way in American history. No presidents, whatever their politics, were as likable, in an iconically American style, as Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan. Both turned sunny charisma to considerable—even historic—advantage.

But sometimes politicians suffer from what might be called a deficit of detestability. One glum day in January 1988, I was seated at the counter of a diner in New Hampshire, stirring a cup of tepid coffee. Beside me sat Rep. ****** Gephardt of Missouri, a candidate for president. He was taking a break from the campaign. No one in the diner recognized him or paid the slightest attention to him. He had the snub nose, china-blue eyes and bleached-white eyebrows of a middle-aged altar boy, an air of vanilla innocence—of harmlessness that was almost embarrassing. He seemed a little disconsolate. We were talking about George Wallace’s fiery campaign for president in 1972 and the day someone shot him in a parking lot in Laurel, Md.

On an impulse, I asked Mr. Gephardt: “Do you ever get assassination threats?”

A faraway, wistful look came into his eyes, and he said: “Jeez, I wish.”

Although he won the Iowa caucuses, Mr. Gephardt’s campaign fizzled and he dropped out in March.

The Democratic field, which briefly included Sen. Joe Biden, was called the “Seven Dwarfs.” The party’s eventual nominee, Gov. Michael Dukakis, was a nice guy who lost in November to another nice guy, Vice President George H.W. Bush, “the last gentleman.” Bush, just in time, had fallen under the influence of a bare-knuckled political manager named Lee Atwater, who played dirty. Newsweek had published a cover story suggesting Bush was a “wimp”—entirely too much of a gentleman—and so for the duration of the ’88 campaign he impersonated a nasty brawler and good old boy who claimed that he loved to eat pork rinds and listen to country music. He went around saying “read my lips” and talking tough on crime, harping on the case of Willie Horton, a murderer who brutalized a Maryland couple while on furlough from prison in Mr. Dukakis’s Massachusetts.

For all that, nobody managed to hate George H.W. Bush very much. He was the sort of man who wrote thank-you notes, in longhand, on the same day, and no one quite hates a man like that. It remained for his son, George W. Bush, to arouse spasms of real loathing.

It’s the memory of Chicago in 1968, I’m afraid, that gives me a premonition of the presidential campaign of 2024. It’s possible that neither human nature nor political dynamics have changed much in the 56 years between then and now. If anything, both have deteriorated. This summer, the Democrats are again meeting in Chicago.

If there ever was a figure capable of conjuring up the kind of visceral hatred that my sainted mother used to feel, it is Donald Trump. If Messrs. Gephardt and Dukakis appeared in a police lineup next to Mr. Trump, they would look like a pair of accountants standing beside “Gorgeous George,” the professional wrestler of the 1940s and ’50s. George had long, dyed-platinum hair, a sequined robe and a ring valet named “Jeffries” who escorted him into the ring carrying a silver mirror and a vial of Chanel No. 5 with which he disinfected the ambient squalor. Gorgeous George’s motto was “Always cheat.” He did. He became, in wrestling terms, an immensely successful “heel.”

Mr. Trump has expanded and developed the theme: the heel as hero—the political outlaw, the white heartland’s Pancho Villa or Stagger Lee. Louisiana’s Huey Long played that role so successfully during the 1930s that the mighty FDR feared him. Mr. Trump’s fan base sticks with him no matter what. He is their favorite wrestler. Criminal indictments only strengthen his appeal. As a lightning rod of loathing, Mr. Trump is unlike anything previously seen in American politics. If he shot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue, MAGA would praise his marksmanship and his demonstration of the Second Amendment in action. My mother had a vivid vocabulary; I can imagine the tirade she would have emitted at the mention of “President Trump.”

Here is the dark side: Politics in a democracy must rely on spoken and written language—on rhetoric, homiletics, invective. Its disputes and even hatreds must be rendered physically harmless, and at least half-civilized, by being translated into words. When Americans reach the limits of their political vocabularies, the game becomes dangerous. Sticks and stones will break your bones, and people will start setting things on fire. Mom, with her resources of billingsgate, never became violent. (In any case, she was 5-foot-1.)

This year—and it’s only March—the idiom of hatred, especially the invective directed at Mr. Trump and the equal-and-opposite invective fired back, has advanced to the brink of violence. The George Floyd summer, I’m afraid, was a foretaste of things to come.

The comparison of Mr. Trump to Hitler, the 20th century’s ne plus ultra of evil, has become a cliché. There they go again. A once-mighty insult, grown familiar and exhausted by overuse, tends to lose its power with the general public, if not with the accuser. When language becomes impotent, people reach for their clubs.

Maybe things will work out. But it’s the Weimar comparison—not the Hitler part, but the general disintegration—that comes back with an ugly pertinence. German political dialogue took to the streets, and the world became infinitely worse.

Political hatred will spill out into the streets if Donald Trump keeps polling well. I expect a repeat of 2020 level riots unless Biden is reelected. It worked last time. No reason to change.

Because they are the willing tools of those doing their dandiest to subjugate the USA and turn it into a third world shithole.

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I've heard all sorts of violence like maiming, killing and looting are a form of reparations.
Political hatred has been spilling out into the streets for some time, but some people haven't noticed.
The left is completely bonkers.

Remember this?

BLM organizer who called looting ‘reparations’ dismisses peaceful protesting

By Social Links for Lee Brown
Published Aug. 13, 2020



I've also heard the “Green New Deal” is also a form of reparations.

‘Squad’ Dem Touts Housing Green New Deal As ‘Reparations’ For ‘Marginalized Communities’

Harold Hutchison
March 21, 2024

Due process..
You can't be the judge, jury and executioner- or you will definitely make the U.S. a third-world country.

A reasonable point, however when despots control media/propaganda and the judicial system the alternatives are quite narrow.

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They may not be. But, that certainly isn't the present situation at all.

Albeit a terrifying thought, I believe it most certainly true. The media and most social networking sites have admited following propaganda directives from the government.

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Never in my 50+ years on this planet have I seen such an inept group as is the House Republican Caucus. They give new mean to the word "cannibal.'

The situation is so dire in fact that the for the first time in history control of the House is in danger of flipping midterm. As it stands right now there are 431 seated members in the House; 218 R's and 213 D's.

Gallager or Wisconsin plans to leave in April. When he does the count will be 430 members: 217 R's and 213 D's. There won't be a special election for that seat since he plans to leave after the deadline for holding a special election to fill the seat.

In April, Democrats are expected to pick up a seat when a special election is held to replace Higgins of New York. If that happens the count is expected to be 431 with 217 R's and 214 D's.

That leaves a 3-vote majority. However, other Republicans have hinted at leaving early. It only takes a couple since in case of a tie any motion fails.

Amazing how the Republicans thought they would have a 20-50 vote majority after the midterms when coupled a President who had historically low approval ratings.

One of the problems facing Republicans when trying to appeal to undecided voters is their obsession with replacing Speakers. McCarthy was brought down due to spending by a guy who inserted one of the most expensive earmarks into the current spending bill. Now it looks like his replacement may be brought down by a member of his own caucus who inserted 5 earmarks herself.

In addition, it seems like every time you turn around, they want to impeach someone. If it isn't Mayorkas its Garland. Hell, if I didn't know better, I'd think they are hell bent on impeaching Hunter Biden even though he doesn't hold office.

Now they have rallied around the absolute worst person they could have nominated for President. With such a weak opponent all the Republicans needed to do was pick a non-controversial candidate with experience in government and that person would win in a landslide. Instead, the pick the one person whose approval ratings match the idiot they are trying to replace and run the risk of not only losing the Presidential race but get hosed in the Senate and House elections as well.

Not really. You seek to control the narrative. However, the Republicans are awful at doing so.

Sometimes, smart people believe stupid things.

They’d rather go down with their Cinnamon Faux Messiah, than win elections and effectively govern the country.

Ive been thinking about this. Though I voted for him twice already I just can’t stomach doing it again. On the other hand I’d wouldn’t vote for Biden if he were the only candidate on the ballot. So what am I to do?

Considering Louisiana is a solid red state Trump will probably carry it with a double digit lead. There is no situation where Biden will come close. So I think I’ll vote for RFK Jr. Perhaps if enough voters begin to seriously consider someone other than the candidates put forth by the Reps and Dems the parties will get the message and stop pushing for extremist candidates.

Wisconsin is one of the swing states. I’m voting JFK Jr.
My wife is in the quandary of most reasonable people; knows Biden is a dismal failure, and he’s a coin flip to be incapacitated while in office. She won’t vote for a potential President Harris. Trump sickens her.
Her vote will be a game time decision.

Wisconsin primary results.
Trump only got 79% of the republican vote.
Haley got 74,000 votes (13% of the Republican vote).
Made me smile.

Wisconsin certainly is on the edge of the swing.

There was a lot of hay in the local media that Trump should be worried he didn't pull out the matching numbers from his last campaign.

On some other forums I belong to...it was commonly understood he had already sown up the GOP nomination. There was nothing else on the ballot but the Presidential ticket. Keep the powder dry.

I wouldn't read too much into the "tea leaves" until November.

Or at least October.