Gene363
a year ago

No surprise that James Madison felt that way. After all among his property holdings were slaves.

Abrignac wrote:



Ad hominem, no answer required.

Abrignac
a year ago
Damn Gene this gift you gave just keeps giving. You stated that one should own property and pay taxes in order to vote. The slavemaster you quoted said property owners only. Interesting. Since about 2% of the total acreage in the US is foreign owned according to your criteria they should get to vote but I shouldn’t. Interesting perspective indeed.
Abrignac
a year ago

Ad hominem, no answer required.

Gene363 wrote:




Perhaps you can tackle #56 and the one above. . I’m dying for an answer.
Abrignac
a year ago
Come on Gene. Enlighten us. You opened your mouth and stuck your foot it in it.
8trackdisco
a year ago


There is still time for the Democrats to find someone to assassinate Trump so there’s no need to be printing up any ballots yet.

HockeyDad wrote:



If there are any ballots needing to be created, there are at least five states in the legal process currently and might get to all seven states who started creating fake electors when Trump lost.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago
I'm reading these comments and there are 2 super ignorant individuals posting like they've NEVER read the Federalist Papers, been in a history class and refuse to educate themselves.
jeebling
a year ago

I find that idea a bit un-American. IIRC correctly a number of years back some Bostonians had a party. Something to do with taxation without representation. Pretty much anyone who buys anything pays at a minimum some sales tax. If they have a job where their income is reported they generally pay income tax. Of course there are many other forms of taxes that non-property owners pay. So essentially you’re saying that those who don’t own property shouldn’t get to vote on what taxes are levied and how those taxes are spent? Sounds like tranny to me.

Abrignac wrote:



Printing money to pay for an expanding federal budget is taxation through inflation
RayR
a year ago

No surprise that James Madison felt that way. After all among his property holdings were slaves.

Abrignac wrote:



We are all slaves now, the property of the centralized Reich according to the laws. They now decide how much of your property you can keep, and what you can buy with what's left over. They can even decide to take everything you own if it serves the state.

It's less about who can vote, but more about what can be voted on. If one group can vote to steal the property and liberties of another group, then the latter are no more than slaves to the former.


Gene363
a year ago

Then in your mind since the property I once owned is now ensconced in a trust because my child is disabled you don’t think I should have the right to vote?

Edit: When considering your answer keep in mind the I served my country for four years as an active duty enlisted man, 1 year as an active reserve and 1 year in the inactive reserves. In addition I served my community as a commissioned LEO for 15 years.

Oops forgot to mention that I paid well over $15,000 in taxes last year and you don’t think I should get to vote on how those taxes got levied or how they will be spent?

Abrignac wrote:



Don't take a job doing mind reading and please, read my post again, with highlight and bold added:

Actually, I believe the right to vote should be joined to owning property and paying taxes. We have a crap-tion of people. organizations and corporations that live off the government dole. They do not have any skin in the game so they shouldn't be able to vote on taxing those that do.

Gene363 wrote:




Property is anything (items or attributes/tangible or intangible) that can be owned by a person or entity. Property is the most complete right to something; the owner can possess, use, transfer or dispose of it.

I can conclude from your post that voters should only come from military vets and LEOs.
RayR
a year ago

Printing money to pay for an expanding federal budget is taxation through inflation

jeebling wrote:



Yes, that's one definition of centralized slavery.
rfenst
a year ago

I'm reading these comments and there are 2 super ignorant individuals posting like they've NEVER read the Federalist Papers, been in a history class and refuse to educate themselves.

DrMaddVibe wrote:


Oh! Oh! Oh!
Can I be designated one of them?
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Oh! Oh! Oh!
Can I be designated one of them?

rfenst wrote:



Jump in their conga line. That Electoral College post was dumb AF!
Abrignac
a year ago

Don't take a job doing mind reading and please, read my post again, with highlight and bold added:




Property is anything (items or attributes/tangible or intangible) that can be owned by a person or entity. Property is the most complete right to something; the owner can possess, use, transfer or dispose of it.

I can conclude from your post that voters should only come from military vets and LEOs.

Gene363 wrote:



Well that was a nice attempt to fix a **** up. I suppose if one owns a pair of pants, a shirt and shoes that makes them a property owner since those items are tangible if the then buy a 10 cent piece of bubble gum and pay a penny in sales tax then they are a taxpayer so pretty much everyone qualifies
rfenst
a year ago
Good point.
Abrignac
a year ago

I'm reading these comments and there are 2 super ignorant individuals posting like they've NEVER read the Federalist Papers, been in a history class and refuse to educate themselves.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Are you sure you want to go down the path of personal attacks? I’m happy that I’m nothing like but I seriously doubt you want me bringing it up.
Gene363
a year ago

Well that was a nice attempt to fix a **** up. I suppose if one owns a pair of pants, a shirt and shoes that makes them a property owner since those items are tangible if the then buy a 10 cent piece of bubble gum and pay a penny in sales tax then they are a taxpayer so pretty much everyone qualifies

Abrignac wrote:



I didn't fuck up anything, you just didn't like my idea.

As it would need to be a Constitutional amendment, that would need to be determined, probably something north of $100k OTOH, the democrats will probably want an possession of EBT card or what ever an illegal carries across the border, which ever is less.
8trackdisco
a year ago
.... Or Trump could do it under Executive Action.
Gene363
a year ago

.... Or Trump could do it under Executive Action.

8trackdisco wrote:



Since Biden/democtats seem to want illegals to vote then the exact opposite might be possible, but I believe it would take a Constitutional amendment.
8trackdisco
a year ago
Probably.


Found this interesting....


The U.S. Presidents who have signed the most executive orders are:

Franklin D. Roosevelt - 3,721 executive orders
Woodrow Wilson - 1,803 executive orders
Calvin Coolidge - 1,203 executive orders
Theodore Roosevelt - 1,081 executive orders
Herbert Hoover - 968 executive orders
Abrignac
a year ago

I didn't fuck up anything, you just didn't like my idea.

As it would need to be a Constitutional amendment, that would need to be determined, probably something north of $100k OTOH, the democrats will probably want an possession of EBT card or what ever an illegal carries across the border, which ever is less.

Gene363 wrote:




Well that doesn’t make any sense either. I can buy 5 acres within 1 mile of where I live for less than $100,000 so I still wouldn’t qualify under your arbitrary rules. On the other hand one can’t buy an acre in Malibu for less than $20M so once again you definition of tangible is a moving target. Try again.
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