So... 10 commandments in school is no good, but pride flags, porn books, BLM flags, CRT... those are all cool, right?

Asking for a friend.

MACS wrote:

maybe think of it as anything religious can not be mandated by the government.

the days off are cool though...

frankj1 wrote:

Hey Drafter...

can we keep this one? I like him!!

frankj1 wrote:

Hey Drafter...

can we keep this one? I like him!!

frankj1 wrote:

So no laws about murder, and holidays are out of the question. 😳

Gene363 wrote:

incorrect.
it absolutely works to outlaw murder and stuff without forcing other free citizens to accept your conception of a supreme being.

frankj1 wrote:

In 2005, the Supreme Court of the United States recognized that it is permissible to display the Ten Commandments on government property in Van Orden v. Perry, 545 U.S. 677, 688 (2005)

B.(1) No later than January 1, 2025, each public school governing authority shall display the Ten Commandments in each classroom in each school under its jurisdiction. The nature of the display shall be determined by each governing authority with a minimum requirement that the Ten Commandments shall be displayed on a poster or framed document that is at least eleven inches by fourteen 16 inches.

Louisiana HB71 wrote:

Of course, the Ten Commandments are religious—they were so viewed at their inception and so remain.

There are, of course, limits to the display of religious messages or symbols. For example, we held unconstitutional a Kentucky statute requiring the posting of the Ten Commandments in every public schoolroom.

Van Orden v. Perry, 545 U.S. 677, 688 (2005) wrote:

(7) The Mayflower Compact of 1620 was America's first written constitution and made a Covenant with Almighty God to "form a civil body politic". This was the first purely American document of self-government and affirmed the link between civil society and God.

(8) The Northwest Ordinance of 1787 provided a method of admitting new states to the Union from the territory as the country expanded to the Pacific. The Ordinance "extended the fundamental principles of civil and religious liberty" to the territories and stated that "(r)eligion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged."

(4)(a) A public school may also display the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence, and the Northwest Ordinance, as provided in R.S. 25:1282, along with the Ten Commandments.

Louisiana HB71 wrote:

(5) This Section shall not require a public school governing authority to spend its funds to purchase displays. In order to fund the displays free of charge, the school public governing authority shall do either of the following:
(a) Accept donated funds to purchase the displays.
(b) Accept donated displays.

Louisiana HB71 wrote:

incorrect.
it absolutely works to outlaw murder and stuff without forcing other free citizens to accept your conception of a supreme being.

frankj1 wrote:

See post nine.

Murder is a no no according to the Ultimate Big Guy, religion and believers say so, consequently it would be a religious value into inculcated into law. 😳

When one takes an absolutist separation position on religion and government, you run into problems.

Gene363 wrote:

I'm pretty sure murder wasn't generally accepted by society before the Ten Commandments were written. Nor is it an act normally tolerated within the atheist population. Perhaps the concept of not murdering was a secular value incorporated into religion?

:-k

Abrignac wrote:

See post nine.

Murder is a no no according to the Ultimate Big Guy, religion and believers say so, consequently it would be a religious value into inculcated into law. 😳

When one takes an absolutist separation position on religion and government, you run into problems.

Gene363 wrote:

So you are so ashamed of the 10 Commandments and their historical context to the foundation of Western civilization that you don't want kids to be freely exposed to them? Why don't you want children to learn stuff?

RayR wrote:

I'm pretty sure murder wasn't generally accepted by society before the Ten Commandments were written. Nor is it an act normally tolerated within the atheist population. Perhaps the concept of not murdering was a secular value incorporated into religion?

:-k

Abrignac wrote:

I apologize, Ray.
I was wrong when I said the title of this thread was the dumbest thing written recently.
This new post you've excreted lowers the bar beyond expectations...

and I'm still being kind!

frankj1 wrote:

When one takes an absolutist separation position on religion and government, you run into problems.

Gene363 wrote:

you beat me to it, Anth.

I think Gene is just being playful with the rigid interpretation/credit.

frankj1 wrote:

I completely disagree.

rfenst wrote:

Here we go again.

The Jacobins ever since the French Revolution have hated Judeo-Christian values.
Which of the 10 Commandments do you think they find most offensive and need to be kept away from inquisitive young minds in government schools?


Leftists Cry ‘Separation of Church and State’ Over New Ten Commandments Law – Here’s a History Lesson for Them

by Michael Schwarz, The Western Journal Jun. 21, 2024 8:30 am

RayR wrote: