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Ace020599
Rookie

a year ago

#61

Here we go again.

The Jacobins ever since the French Revolution have hated Judeo-Christian values.
Which of the 10 Commandments do you think they find most offensive and need to be kept away from inquisitive young minds in government schools?

Leftists Cry ‘Separation of Church and State’ Over New Ten Commandments Law – Here’s a History Lesson for Them

by Michael Schwarz, The Western Journal Jun. 21, 2024 8:30 am

RayR wrote:

First off the Louisiana ACLU will be sure it doesn't happen. Second, send the kids to private school if you want to be sure they are getting the teaching you want. There are many faiths in this country and to have only the Ten Commandments posted is wrong but the maga party isn't interested in any other faith but the christian faith believing that is the only one that matters. I'm Catholic but these people have it all wrong.

BuckyB93
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#62

I don't agree with the mandatory posting of the 10 Commandments in pubic schools.

I 100% support the separation of church and state.

I 100% support the principles of the 10 Commandments and they are not exclusive to Christian faiths. Although they may be worded differently, in my opinion, they are the foundation and the basis of many faiths and religions.

I support saying the Pledge of Allegiance in schools. OK, it has the word God in it but God wears many hats and he/she/it or whatever Higher Power you choose is not specifically based on a specific religion.

I don't support kneeling, turning your back or whatever when the Star Spangled Banner or Taps is played. In my opinion, if you live in this country with the freedoms and benefits that it has given you, the least you can do is pay honor to that and give a Thank You to the country and the men and women that helped build it.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#63

point of interest...Under God was added to the Pledge in 1954.
Added to money in 1955.
Both by Eisenhower.

both in my lifetime, born in 1953.

BuckyB93
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#64

Moses was the first human to download documents from the Cloud onto his tablets. He was ahead of his time. There were 15 Commandments but he had butter fingers so we only have two thirds of the files.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I48hr8HhDv0

I wonder what the other five were...

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MaduroJorge
Connoisseur

a year ago

#65

How about allowing the tax paying parents in Louisiana
to vote YES or NO every school year,
That would work.

RayR
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

a year ago

#66

I don't think most people comprehend the meaning of "separation of church and state" in its historical context.
It has nothing to do with talking about religion, studying religions, or displaying religious things in schools because it might hurt somebody's feelings.:-({|=

The Constitution thing only prohibited the general government from interfering with religion like creating an official church of America. Those English had the Anglican Church and although some people in America worshipped at Anglican Churches, nobody wanted Congress, or the President or the Courts to create an official church of the new republic. They knew the Anglican Church was entangled in Britian's governmental affairs and they wanted no part of it.

Nothing in the U.S. Constitution prohibits states from doing anything they want as far as religion. They are only limited by what their state constitutions allow them to do.

Even before the colonies won their independence, individual colonies established official state churches, and yes even forced peasants to pay taxes to support the official government church. (That's kind of like school taxes now)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-1/state-established-religion-in-the-colonies

MaduroJorge
Connoisseur

a year ago

#67

#66
Excellent summary of Separation of Church and State.
With that the Founding Fathers prevented a group, say Anglicans,
of making outsiders of other believers in the community.

Gene363
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#68

It would be really nice if the left was as adamant about The Second Amendment as they are about one part of the First Amendment and the following statement:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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RayR
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

a year ago

#69

God forbid they let the kids read the Letters between Thomas Jefferson and the Danbury Baptists.
https://billofrightsinstitute.org/primary-sources/danburybaptists

I'll tell you what I think is the gist of the lefty outrage over letting kids read the 10 Commandments.
They are afraid that the kids might read them and put 2+2 together.
They'll see that their blessed Duhmacracy violates nearly every Commandment.
They'll see that their governments steal, lie, kill and more.

Hey, Lefties! Leave them kids alone!

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rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#70

Why are not ALL of God's Commandments taught in public schools?
Why just 10?
Shouldn't it be the public's duty to display and teach them all?

Abrignac
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#71

Why are not ALL of God's Commandments taught in public schools?
Why just 10?
Shouldn't it be the public's duty to display and teach them all?

rfenst wrote:

Because that would require teaching the Talmud, not the Bible and that’s contrary to the Christian dominated Republican’s beliefs.

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#72

Because that would require teaching the Talmud, not the Bible and that’s contrary to the Christian dominated Republican’s beliefs.

Abrignac wrote:

Nope.

The 611 Commandments are believed to be God God's gift to Moses for mankind.

The tradition of teaching Talmud, however, is more recent and is about rabbinic laws interpreting God's laws, derived by man, not God. However, still holy because it does relate to God.

What each interpterion means varies between both christians and jews ,and their respective sects.

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Abrignac
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#73

rfenst wrote:

611 or 613?

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#74

I thought 613, with the possibility of a few more lurking in the background.

But America can't give Moses and his bloodline credit for the Ten Commandments. It might start a Jewish Nationalism movement!!!
OY

Gene363
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#75

frankj1 wrote:

Wait just a second, Heston was an Episcopalian. 😳

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jeebling
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#76

The Constitution assumes that our rights are God given and that our rights are not created and doled out by mankind. Without God, the concept of good and evil is arbitrary. Does this mean that atheists are always evil and can do no good? No, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that murder is evil because God said it is evil and not because men say it is evil. How do Godless people and systems of government prove that something is evil and unlawful? By majority rules of the day? That doesn’t hold up. Arguing over which religion has found the true God is altogether a different thing but God is still the bedrock of morality on which laws are proven or broken.

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DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#77

Nope.

The 611 Commandments are believed to be God God's gift to Moses for mankind.

rfenst wrote:

Moses received the Ten Commandments from the singing bush.... 😟

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#78

Moses received the Ten Commandments from the singing bush.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Katy Perry or Taylor Swift?:-"

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#79

Wait just a second, Heston was an Episcopalian. 😳

Gene363 wrote:

too funny.
Still laugh when Edward G. Robinson is in scenes...I love the guy but can't get used to him not wearing a suit and fedora

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

a year ago

#80

jeebling wrote:

consider that part of assuming good and evil, as defined by believers, requires belief in God is also inescapably tied to the teachings of the religion itself. It's part of the education/indoctrination process (I don't mean a negative here) that it only exists within God...simply put it does not allow for human beings to have any innate sense of morals, or even the capacity to develop from life experiences.

Sorry, Jeebs, but I completely reject that limitation.

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