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NYT Editorial Board

The editorial board is a group of opinion journalists whose views are informed by expertise, research, debate and certain longstanding values. It is separate from the newsroom.

President Biden has repeatedly and rightfully described the stakes in this November’s presidential election as nothing less than the future of American democracy.

Donald Trump has proved himself to be a significant jeopardy to that democracy — an erratic and self-interested figure unworthy of the public trust. He systematically attempted to undermine the integrity of elections. His supporters have described, publicly, a 2025 agenda that would give him the power to carry out the most extreme of his promises and threats. If he is returned to office, he has vowed to be a different kind of president, unrestrained by the checks on power built into the American political system.

Mr. Biden has said that he is the candidate with the best chance of taking on this threat of tyranny and defeating it. His argument rests largely on the fact that he beat Mr. Trump in 2020. That is no longer a sufficient rationale for why Mr. Biden should be the Democratic nominee this year.

At Thursday’s debate, the president needed to convince the American public that he was equal to the formidable demands of the office he is seeking to hold for another term. Voters, however, cannot be expected to ignore what was instead plain to see: Mr. Biden is not the man he was four years ago.

The president appeared on Thursday night as the shadow of a great public servant. He struggled to explain what he would accomplish in a second term. He struggled to respond to Mr. Trump’s provocations. He struggled to hold Mr. Trump accountable for his lies, his failures and his chilling plans. More than once, he struggled to make it to the end of a sentence.

Mr. Biden has been an admirable president. Under his leadership, the nation has prospered and begun to address a range of long-term challenges, and the wounds ripped open by Mr. Trump have begun to heal. But the greatest public service Mr. Biden can now perform is to announce that he will not continue to run for re-election.

As it stands, the president is engaged in a reckless gamble. There are Democratic leaders better equipped to present clear, compelling and energetic alternatives to a second Trump presidency. There is no reason for the party to risk the stability and security of the country by forcing voters to choose between Mr. Trump’s deficiencies and those of Mr. Biden. It’s too big a bet to simply hope Americans will overlook or discount Mr. Biden’s age and infirmity that they see with their own eyes.

If the race comes down to a choice between Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden, the sitting president would be this board’s unequivocal pick. That is how much of a danger Mr. Trump poses. But given that very danger, the stakes for the country and the uneven abilities of Mr. Biden, the United States needs a stronger opponent to the presumptive Republican nominee. To make a call for a new Democratic nominee this late in a campaign is a decision not taken lightly, but it reflects the scale and seriousness of Mr. Trump’s challenge to the values and institutions of this country and the inadequacy of Mr. Biden to confront him.

Ending his candidacy would be against all of Mr. Biden’s personal and political instincts. He has picked himself up from tragedies and setbacks in the past and clearly believes he can do so again. Supporters of the president are already explaining away Thursday’s debate as one data point compared with three years of accomplishments. But the president’s performance cannot be written off as a bad night or blamed on a supposed cold, because it affirmed concerns that have been mounting for months or even years. Even when Mr. Biden tried to lay out his policy proposals, he stumbled. It cannot be outweighed by other public appearances because he has limited and carefully controlled his public appearances.

It should be remembered that Mr. Biden challenged Mr. Trump to this verbal duel. He set the rules, and he insisted on a date months earlier than any previous general election debate. He understood that he needed to address longstanding public concerns about his mental acuity and that he needed to do so as soon as possible.

The truth Mr. Biden needs to confront now is that he failed his own test.

In polls and interviews, voters say they are seeking fresh voices to take on Mr. Trump. And the consolation for Mr. Biden and his supporters is that there is still time to rally behind a different candidate. While Americans are conditioned to the long slog of multiyear presidential elections, in many democracies, campaigns are staged in the space of a few months.

It is a tragedy that Republicans themselves are not engaged in deeper soul-searching after Thursday’s debate. Mr. Trump’s own performance ought to be regarded as disqualifying. He lied brazenly and repeatedly about his own actions, his record as president and his opponent. He described plans that would harm the American economy, undermine civil liberties and fray America’s relationships with other nations. He refused to promise that he would accept defeat, returning instead to the kind of rhetoric that incited the Jan. 6 attack on Congress.

The Republican Party, however, has been co-opted by Mr. Trump’s ambitions. The burden rests on the Democratic Party to put the interests of the nation above the ambitions of a single man.

Democrats who have deferred to Mr. Biden must now find the courage to speak plain truths to the party’s leader. The confidants and aides who have encouraged the president’s candidacy and who sheltered him from unscripted appearances in public should recognize the damage to Mr. Biden’s standing and the unlikelihood that he can repair it.

Mr. Biden answered an urgent question on Thursday night. It was not the answer that he and his supporters were hoping for. But if the risk of a second Trump term is as great as he says it is — and we agree with him that the danger is enormous — then his dedication to this country leaves him and his party only one choice.

The clearest path for Democrats to defeat a candidate defined by his lies is to deal truthfully with the American public: acknowledge that Mr. Biden can’t continue his race, and create a process to select someone more capable to stand in his place to defeat Mr. Trump in November.

It is the best chance to protect the soul of the nation — the cause that drew Mr. Biden to run for the presidency in 2019 — from the malign warping of Mr. Trump. And it is the best service that Mr. Biden can provide to a country that he has nobly served for so long.



If the Dems have any chance, seems like Biden needs to resign promptly for the rest of his term. Kamala should declare she will not be the presidential candidate. Pick two better candidates. Otherwise, 25th Amendment him and dump her if they want any chance to win.
Whistlebritches
a year ago

NYT Editorial Board

The editorial board is a group of opinion journalists whose views are informed by expertise, research, debate and certain longstanding values. It is separate from the newsroom.



If the Dems have any chance, seems like Biden needs to resign promptly for the rest of his term. Kamala should declare she will not be the presidential candidate. Pick two better candidates. Otherwise, 25th Amendment him and dump her if they want any chance to win.

rfenst wrote:




A third grader need not read past the first sentence to know this is complete biased bullschit .............."opinion journalists" 🤥

2nd sentence; Who in their right mind wants to continue the current schit show

Joe is done regardless!!!
ZRX1200
a year ago
The left is responsible for the world seeing that performance that showed what we’ve had pretending to lead this country. Thank goodness we don’t have mean tweets though.
KingoftheCove
a year ago
LOL………NY Times “Editorial Board”…
Talk about scammers, liars, and bullchit artists.
They are even WORSE than Trump, and he’s fuqin bad!
Abrignac
a year ago
No surprise in the article. Of course the Democrats need to jettison Biden but will they? If so, does he go willingly?

On a side note correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t editorials by definition opinion articles written from the author’s point of view where a bias is expected and generally called an opinion piece whereas a news article would be fact based? Asking for a friend….
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

The left is responsible for the world seeing that performance that showed what we’ve had pretending to lead this country. Thank goodness we don’t have mean tweets though.

ZRX1200 wrote:



AMEN...don't want to ever hear it was a vote against Trump...We ALL know it was just a vote against America now.

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A third grader need not read past the first sentence to know this is complete biased bullschit .............."opinion journalists"

Whistlebritches wrote:


You didn't read it so you don't know what is said. Yet, you have an opinion. That is the epitomy of pre-judging (a.k.a. prejudice) and rank "bias."

There is nothing wrong with "Opinion Articles", IMO, because that's all they are, opinions of the author. Often times they are written by experts on the subject of the article and, despite having a perspective different than one's, could provide a different perspect (not change one's mind).

What's the real matter? You don't want a different Dem to run against Trump?
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... On a side note correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t editorials by definition opinion articles written from the author’s point of view where a bias is expected and generally called an opinion piece whereas a news article would be fact based? Asking for a friend….

Abrignac wrote:


Yes.
And they should scare and anger people too.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

What's the real matter? You don't want a different Dem to run against Trump?

rfenst wrote:




You and millions of dems voted for Biden. Don't you want your vote to count?
DrMaddVibe
a year ago
America Is In Shambles Because Of Democrat Policies, Not Just Joe Biden



Don’t buy the spin. Swapping Biden out for a shiny new Democrat won’t save America.

CNN spent the hour after Thursday’s presidential debate in an emotional tailspin. But at the heart of their desperate “analysis” was speculation about whether the fumbling Biden should step down to let another Democrat jump in to carry the torch of “DEMOCRACY.”

The jig is up. Here’s what disillusioned Democrats and independents and moderates need to know. What all the blue-state refugees who now live in Texas and Florida instead of California and New York City need to admit. What all the fed-up middle-class families and forgotten nonwhite voters in the suburbs need to remember: These aren’t just Joe Biden policies that are disastrous. They’re Democrat policies.

Abortion. Economy. Crime. Immigration. Lawfare. Foreign policy. Health care. It doesn’t matter what pet issue has voters down in the dumps. Democrats are in lockstep on the losing side. And anywhere they aren’t in lockstep — like on whether Israel is a victim of terrorism or a group of oppressive “colonizers” — they tow the radical line.


You think a Democrat switcheroo is magically going to secure the border and end the unmitigated illegal alien crime wave? (And lest you’ve been captive to the corporate media spin, here are a few of many examples of such atrocities.) Not a chance. Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, Biden’s expanded asylum, repeal of Remain in Mexico, outrage over shipping migrants to Martha’s Vineyard, support for ripping down border razor wire, and playing footsie with Mexican cartels are all fruits of the same poisonous tree: Democrats’ antipathy for the U.S. border. It’s delusional to think the governor of sanctuary-state California, for instance — a possible 2024 replacement — would be a workable substitute for Biden.

The same goes for Democrats’ abortion radicalism. Now, Donald Trump isn’t nearly as pro-life as I and many other conservatives and Christians are or would like him to be. But there’s absolutely no doubt he’s the moderate on the issue in 2024. After 50 years of unconstitutional Roe v. Wade supremacy, former president Trump nominated the Supreme Court justices that overturned the abominable precedent. He now advocates for about as moderate an abortion position as you can get: Leave it to the states. So California and Florida can enact opposite laws, and the other 48 can do everything in between.

Biden, meanwhile, can’t articulate his abortion position, other than saying “Roe” over and over. That’s because he, like all other Democrats in positions of power, supports a woman’s nonexistent “right” to kill her unborn child at any point up until birth for no other reason than that the idea of being pregnant makes her feel sad. As my colleague Jordan Boyd wrote, the majority of voters reject this, and, “In fact, most Republican, Democrat, and independent voters say they support protecting unborn babies beginning at 15 weeks.”

On and on it goes. The foreign policy, welfare, and subsidy and bailout spending that have helped drive up inflation over the past three-plus years are Democrat policies, not just Joe Biden policies. The soft-on-crime ideology, push for self-styled “progressive” district attorneys, and defund-the-police movement, among other perversions of justice, are again Democrat pet projects, not a Biden-unique quirk.

And our two-tiered system of justice — led by the deep state, rogue state prosecutors, and a leftist executive — wouldn’t stop just because Biden isn’t on the ticket. The same people who raided the homes of pro-lifers while seeking immunity for the Biden family; prosecuted one man for “classified documents” while letting other worse offenders go free; and made up novel legal theories and new statutes of limitations to gag, fine, and ultimately imprison their chief political opponent are beholden to a party, not just the sitting president.

So when the Democrat armchair class suddenly gets weepy about Biden’s decline, saying Democrats “‘HAVE A PROBLEM’ AFTER BIDEN’S DEBATE PERFORMANCE,” don’t buy the spin that a shiny new Democrat could bail America out.

It isn’t just Biden that’s ruined America. It’s his party.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/06/28/america-is-in-shambles-because-of-democrat-policies-not-just-joe-biden/ 
frankj1
a year ago
Trump has run twice, so far.
I voted against Trump both times
.
Neither time did I vote Democrat..

More importantly, neither time did I vote against America.

My vote deserves as much respect as yours...and more than yours for the election you did not vote at all.

Whistlebritches
a year ago

You didn't read it so you don't know what is said. Yet, you have an opinion. That is the epitomy of pre-judging (a.k.a. prejudice) and rank "bias."

There is nothing wrong with "Opinion Articles", IMO, because that's all they are, opinions of the author. Often times they are written by experts on the subject of the article and, despite having a perspective different than one's, could provide a different perspect (not change one's mind).

What's the real matter? You don't want a different Dem to run against Trump?

rfenst wrote:




I read it.........I was stating after reading that first sentence the following was exactly as I suspected.

Robert I could care less if they insert a different dem as long as its done the democrat way...............you know under the table and as crooked as a barrel of snakes.Then if the people vote for the new dem God help us all.If they haven't had enough of the schit show already we are seriously doomed.
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I read it.........I was stating after reading that first sentence the following was exactly as I suspected.

Robert I could care less if they insert a different dem as long as its done the democrat way...............you know under the table and as crooked as a barrel of snakes.Then if the people vote for Trump God help us all.If they haven't had enough of the schit show we saw during his first administration to date are seriously doomed.

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FIFY
I apologize for my accusation that you did not read it. Sorry, Bro.
MACS
a year ago
Why have the debate so early? Could it possibly be this was all part of the nefarious plan?

25th amendment gets used, so they can replace Biden with someone of their choice instead of having, oh... I don't know... an actual primary so the people could decide?
Gene363
a year ago

Why have the debate so early? Could it possibly be this was all part of the nefarious plan?

25th amendment gets used, so they can replace Biden with someone of their choice instead of having, oh... I don't know... an actual primary so the people could decide?

MACS wrote:



The globalists and other sponsors of the parliament of whores cannot allow that.
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Why have the debate so early? Could it possibly be this was all part of the nefarious plan?

25th amendment gets used, so they can replace Biden with someone of their choice instead of having, oh... I don't know... an actual primary so the people could decide?

MACS wrote:


It's a conspiracy, dagganit!
Whistlebritches
a year ago

Why have the debate so early? Could it possibly be this was all part of the nefarious plan?

25th amendment gets used, so they can replace Biden with someone of their choice instead of having, oh... I don't know... an actual primary so the people could decide?

MACS wrote:




I'm wit ya but I believe if they use the 25th amendment they're stuck with O'l Camel Toe..................she's even less popular than Joe

Someone correct me if I'm wrong
JGRAZ
a year ago
I think, and I could be wrong too, they can nominate whomever they want if he backs out. She would only hold for the remainder of the term. There is no way whatsoever they will allow her to run. My guess ot would be Newsome or bust.


jeebling
a year ago
If they swap out the VP nomination from Kamaltoe to Newsome and leave Biden where he’s at, stand by for 25th Amendment to be used as a threat to make Biden step down next summer and if he doesn’t then they’ll use it to oust him. But they’ll have to win the election first of course.
8trackdisco
a year ago

Why have the debate so early? Could it possibly be this was all part of the nefarious plan?

MACS wrote:



Yet another conspiracy? Trump was tricked?! …. Again?

Maybe it is no more than the Dems continuing to outplay Trump, Trump and his supporters chase their tails even faster yet, and sound even more victimized than before.

It’s just not fair how the Dems are using their brains will the other side is continually running on emotion not unlike teenagers having their first periods.

Symptoms of the above are part of the Red strain of TDS.
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