HockeyDad
a year ago
Biden told everyone that he is the candidate and everyone needs to STFU and get back in line.
MACS
a year ago

Biden told everyone that he is the candidate and everyone needs to STFU and get back in line.

HockeyDad wrote:



No primary necessary! Why let the voters decide? That'd be a "threat to democracy!" They'll install whomever they want and the people will eat fkn cake!
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

No primary necessary! Why let the voters decide? That'd be a "threat to democracy!" They'll install whomever they want and the people will eat fkn cake!

MACS wrote:




EXACTLY!

There's still people that believe the show in Chicago is going to matter!!!! Biden isn't on all the ballots and the DNC will hold a secret "convention" ahead of the planned one to usher him in to get him on those states ballots.
Speyside2
a year ago
Gene, I get your point. But that combination would give Trump a run for the money. Obama will not run, she has stated that repeatedly. Abrams is doing the job she wants. I know I am speaking hypothetically. If Obama ran the black vote and the Muslim vote would be hers. Abrams for her part knows how to win Georgia. She proved that last time. I have seen 2 " poles" that show Obama with a 20% and a 11% lead over Trump. The sarcasm would be about that ticket. But I do think they could beat Trump. Just as I think Trump needs to pick the best VP he can. First he could drop dead almost as easily as Biden. 2nd he need to carry a couple of minorities.
8trackdisco
a year ago

8, I am not talking about winning. I am more thinking of how do you right the ship for the countries sake. We could just as well be talking about the Reps. Maybe it takes a batch of losing to right the country. Neither party gives a d amn about the people.

Speyside2 wrote:



If they would have an open convention. One that could show some transparency, and not have the person already preordained by the party.

The Super Delegates would have to hold themseloves in check.

Double Haters and Undecideds would find it all refreshing and when gain support for Team Blue.
jeebling
a year ago

WTF does that mean?



Don't shoot the messenger. DEMS are floating names to see what kind of feedback they get from donors. Hence the wind direction comment I made in my previous post.

Michelle has said numerous times she isn't running. Unlike the others who have said the same thing, Newsome for example, she isn't making campaign speeches disguised as attempts to energize voters either. She isn't making the TV circuit or anything else. For the most part she has stayed out of the limelight since she moved out of the White House. Especially in the last four years.

Abrignac wrote:




I don’t know what I can believe from “the media” but it’s often said that Michelle hates politics and political life. Stressing the word hate over other words such as dislike or uncomfortable.
HockeyDad
a year ago
It is interesting watching the Democrats conduct a coup/insurrection. I’m waiting to see which side wins.
RayR
a year ago
Poor Joey. It started as a circle jerk around Biden and turned into a circular firing squad.😞
But that's what Jacibins have always done. They used to use guillotines though.

Even Obama has joined in with his final solution.

Having Exhausted All Other Options, Obama Invites Biden Paddle Boarding

MARTHA'S VINEYARD, MA — Following President Biden's repeated refusals to back out of the presidential race, former President Barack Obama has reportedly invited Biden out for a nice quiet afternoon of paddleboarding.

Sources allege that Obama was reluctant to extend the offer, but has come to see it as the last option available to the Democratic party at this point, as Biden has remained adamant on keeping his candidacy even in the midst of significant pressure to step down from his own party.

"Hey, Joe old buddy? I didn't want to have to ask this, but…uh…are you up for a spot of paddle boarding over at my place this afternoon?" Obama asked his former Vice President. "It'll be just the two of us, all alone, nothing to worry about. I've got a lake property way out in the middle of nowhere — we'll have a splash! We've already asked you to step down several times, but you just never seem to be amenable. Maybe we can just talk things over, you and me, on a couple of paddle boards out on the lake."

"I'm sure we can come to an understanding."

Staffers say that President Biden was reportedly "thrilled" to accept Obama's offer and was quite flattered to see that he had been given the nice newly-waxed red paddle board.

At publishing time, Obama had been seen wiping tears out of his eyes and paddling back to shore after a two-and-a-half-hour excursion. President Biden is still nowhere to be found.

https://babylonbee.com/news/down-to-his-last-option-obama-invites-biden-paddle-boarding 

DrMaddVibe
a year ago
Wonder if the DNC has thought of Ham Sandwich?
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Gene, I get your point. But that combination would give Trump a run for the money. Obama will not run, she has stated that repeatedly. Abrams is doing the job she wants. I know I am speaking hypothetically. If Obama ran the black vote and the Muslim vote would be hers. Abrams for her part knows how to win Georgia. She proved that last time. I have seen 2 " poles" that show Obama with a 20% and a 11% lead over Trump. The sarcasm would be about that ticket. But I do think they could beat Trump. Just as I think Trump needs to pick the best VP he can. First he could drop dead almost as easily as Biden. 2nd he need to carry a couple of minorities.

Speyside2 wrote:




Cue the trombones....


“Let’s be clear,” Abrams wrote. “The wishful benefits of a contested convention or a late-stage exit are vastly outweighed by the potential harm. President Joe Biden has the integrity, moral character and record needed to beat Donald Trump in November. Our path to victory lies in standing by Biden and understanding the high stakes of this election.”


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/10/stacey-abrams-backs-biden-crucial-to-continue-to-support-him/ 
JGKAMIN
a year ago
They should be stuck running Biden, the guy they’ve carried for years now and had to be fully aware of what limitations he had and they helped hide. The other side pointed out things so often they were quickly shut down, even just about two weeks ago KJP said they were doctored videos, then the world saw what we all should’ve known all along and now they want to cut bait and find a last minute replacement?
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

They should be stuck running Biden, the guy they’ve carried for years now and had to be fully aware of what limitations he had and they helped hide. The other side pointed out things so often they were quickly shut down, even just about two weeks ago KJP said they were doctored videos, then the world saw what we all should’ve known all along and now they want to cut bait and find a last minute replacement?

JGKAMIN wrote:



Especially since the "voters" have spoken. The time to replace him would've been during the primaries not after they've got their candidate. This is more DNC election games. Democrats should be pissed that this is happening, instead they're seeing Pedo Joe with clear eyes for the 1st time in their lives and he never looked good to begin with! Contrary to selecting a replacement they're stuck with him and Kameltoes his cacking DEI stooge.
rfenst
a year ago

They should be stuck running Biden, the guy they’ve carried for years now and had to be fully aware of what limitations he had and they helped hide. The other side pointed out things so often they were quickly shut down, even just about two weeks ago KJP said they were doctored videos, then the world saw what we all should’ve known all along and now they want to cut bait and find a last minute replacement?

JGKAMIN wrote:


For the good of the country?
Is there any D who you think would be better than Trump for America over the next 4+years?
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

For the good of the country?
Is there any D who you think would be better than Trump for America over the next 4+years?

rfenst wrote:




For the good of the country? World?

No.


The DNC is an angry party chock full of DEI woke trans morons. They've bred the brains out of the breed. There isn't a sane competent one amongst them.
JGKAMIN
a year ago

For the good of the country?
Is there any D who you think would be better than Trump for America over the next 4+years?

rfenst wrote:


No.
rfenst
a year ago
If Biden Steps Down, Democrats Could Win the Election
The party could still beat Trump with the right strategy.



WSJ: Opinion

These are the times that try Democrats’ souls. The presidential debate and its aftermath have thrown the party into crisis.

Democrats say that Donald Trump and the Republican Party will inflict grave, perhaps irreparable, damage on the constitutional institutions that make the U.S. great.

If Democrats truly believe this, then they have a duty to nominate the candidate with the best chance of defeating Mr. Trump in November. President Biden told ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos on Friday that the standard by which he will judge himself is whether he gave it his all. But that’s not good enough if another candidate could do better.

As if the stakes weren’t already monumental, the Supreme Court just raised them. The winner of this year’s presidential contest will claim an office newly unshackled from most legal restraints.

In these circumstances, Democrats must conduct an open search for the best candidate for the country, and the convention delegates must make the final choice.

It’s not hard to understand why Mr. Biden is resisting this course. He sought the presidency for more than three decades before finally attaining it. Giving it up would be hard for any president, let alone one with his history. It would also mean accepting a reality that no one his age wants to face—that he’s no longer capable of doing the job he loves. He’s proud of his record, but what matters most is the next four years, not the past four.

For the good of the country, those Joe Biden trusts most must persuade him to look squarely at the evidence—the medical indications and the political facts. The point of the debate with Donald Trump was to dispel doubts about the president’s fitness to serve and turn public opinion against his opponent. The reverse happened; Mr. Trump gets to stand on the sidelines while the public watches the president and his party flail. Mr. Biden was already trailing before the debate, and now he’s further behind, with 7 in 10 Americans concluding he couldn’t do the job in a second term.

All this points to Mr. Biden’s near-certain defeat this fall. It’s hard to believe that no other candidate would have better odds of winning.

The most plausible path to a Democratic Electoral College victory in November runs through the once-impregnable Blue Wall states. Although the president still has a fighting chance in two of these states—Wisconsin and Michigan—he faces daunting odds in Pennsylvania, where polls conducted since the debate have shown Mr. Trump leading by nearly 6 points, more than double the margin before the debate. It’s hard to imagine Mr. Biden—or any Democrat—winning the presidential election without prevailing in the Keystone State.

This suggests a straightforward test for Democrats pondering their options: Which candidate seems most likely to carry Pennsylvania? Is it President Biden, who has trailed in nearly every poll conducted in the state since mid-April? Is it Vice President Harris, who in a hypothetical matchup posed in a February poll trailed Mr. Trump by 9 points? (In that same poll, Mr. Biden trailed by only 2 points.) Or would other candidates do better?

There’s no way to get answers without an open process that gives Democrats a chance to acquire more information and test the alternatives. Inviting Mr. Biden’s adversaries to challenge him at the convention is an empty gesture unless he frees his delegates to exercise their best judgment. If Mr. Biden stands down, as he should, his successor should be selected, not anointed.

An endorsement from Rep. James Clyburn (D., S.C.) in the 2020 South Carolina primary helped Mr. Biden win the Democratic nomination. Mr. Clyburn last week told CNN that if Mr. Biden stepped down, he would support a “mini-primary” as a way forward for his party. He said Ms. Harris likely would do well in such a process, but he insisted that “it would be fair to everybody.”

While Mr. Clyburn supports Ms. Harris, he clearly doesn’t think that by virtue of being vice president, she’s somehow entitled to the nomination. History is on Mr. Clyburn’s side. Since the end of World War II, every vice president who has run for president—including those who had already become president through the death or resignation of their predecessors—has been seriously challenged for his party’s presidential nomination.

It wouldn’t be hard for the party to design a mini-primary along the lines that Mr. Clyburn suggests, and it would offer many advantages. It would provide delegates with valuable information about the candidates. It would capture the attention of the press and the country. It would inject excitement into a listless race and offer hope to a dispirited party. It would be participatory and democratic. And the competition would strengthen the nominee, whomever it may be, including Ms. Harris.

The Democrats can play out a losing hand, or they can shuffle the deck and hope to deal themselves better cards.
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