Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
He quotes Jefferson about the occasional need for anarchy. Nothing else has worked for a long time. Is it time for civil disobedience at a minimum? As someone who prefers to turn the other cheek in real life civil disobedience is as far as I am willing to go. Mahatma Gandhi formed a free india by doing this.
RayR
a year ago
Which quote are you referring to?

When you find yourself in too much "archy" (government), you have tyranny.
Then it's time for "anarchy" (much less government) to set things straight.
"Anarchy" is a much maligned word used by both the Right and the Left in a derogatory sense, usually associated with political violence as a method of disobedience.to civil authority. But is that all there is to it?

Do most people even think about the fact that the early confederacy of former colonies was founded on disobedience. to civil authority, a civil authority from across the Atlantic that had turned into tyranny? Read The Declaration of Independence.

Jefferson also proposed civil disobedience on the state level in his Principles of '98 to nullify unconstitutional legislation coming from D.C.
Read the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions written in 1798 by James Madison and Thomas Jefferson, respectively.

Yes, Mahatma Gandhi used civil disobedience also as a method to resist British rule.

Martin Luther King, Jr. even wrote in his letter from Birmingham Jail: "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."











Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
“I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and is as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.”

I misspoke when I said anarchy. Rebellion is the phrase Jefferson used.
RayR
a year ago
OK, this is the letter that the quote came from and it is good to read it..

"Societies exist under three forms sufficiently distinguishable. 1. Without government, as among our Indians. 2. Under governments wherein the will of every one has a just influence, as is the case in England in a slight degree, and in our states in a great one. 3. Under governments of force: as is the case in all other monarchies and in most of the other republics. To have an idea of the curse of existence under these last, they must be seen. It is a government of wolves over sheep. It is a problem, not clear in my mind, that the 1st. condition is not the best. But I believe it to be inconsistent with any great degree of population. The second state has a great deal of good in it. The mass of mankind under that enjoys a precious degree of liberty and happiness. It has it’s evils too: the principal of which is the turbulence to which it is subject. But weigh this against the oppressions of monarchy, and it becomes nothing. Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. Even this evil is productive of good. It prevents the degeneracy of government, and nourishes a general attention to the public affairs. I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.[1] Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, January 30, 1787



"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery" is a translation of a Latin phrase that Thomas Jefferson used: "Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." It has also been translated as, "I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude."

https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/i-prefer-dangerous-freedom-over-peaceful-slavery-quotation/ 
Mr. Jones
a year ago
RayR is SMMMAAAHHHTTTAAAHHH
THAN ANY ROOM39 OR APT31 WEASEL BOT WANNABE
POLITICO AFFICIONADO
Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
Mr Jones,

You speak so much of SSG.
Then you speak of pretenders. Such as ROOM39 or APT31.

Here are 3 other capitalized letters, SIS.
Do THEY mean anything to you?
Mr. Jones
a year ago
Mr. Jones
a year ago
P.S.....
I never dealt with MI6...
BUNCH OF BUSH LEAGUE HURTINS...

I only dealt with "the White jamacian"
In MI5...
MI5 IS THE BOSS OF MI6..
NO NEED TO DEAL WITH SECOND STRINGERS...
DrafterX
a year ago
M15, M16.. whatever it takes... 😟
Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
The Secret Intelligence Service, often known as MI6, collects Britain’s foreign intelligence. It provides the government with a global covert capability to promote and defend the national security and economic well-being of the country.

SIS works with the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office.

MI6 is similar to the CIA actually. Sometimes they work in conjunction with SSG.
Mr. Jones
a year ago
You are correct sir...

So does the MOSSAD...
THEY sent a 6 person team to Williamsport, PA one day while I was visiting g up there and ate lunch at the Bullfrog brewery...
I saw them all , men and women , getting out of a van behind the brewery...it was like clockwork they way they exited that van...no talking at all, all preplanned as to the direction and coverage they had already gone pver....once we went into the brewery for lunch several of them sat at the bar, bull****ing and drinking loudly with Israeli accents...
The Leader ( male) sat within 10 ft of my family alone at a table...
That pissed me off, he was well within my comfort zone perimeter..

We left there and went to WEGAMENS FOOD STORE and they were climbing up my ass with carts by several women agents...

I saw one male mossad at a Stauffers food store in Lancaster ,PA once also...the prick kept talking very loudly on his phone with " directed conversation technique" about "my possible extraction and extradition to a foreign country for interogation" , which was total bullcrap...
Mr. Jones
a year ago
It was just 6? Or 8? At the bull frog brewery...
The wegamens was another set of mostly women...
They were pricks, hitting me with their carts, bumping into me whilst reaching for items, dirty looks and just sinister B.S. ...the others didn't notice it because they only **** with you when you are alone, a distance away from your family .
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