Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
The Guardian

Donald Trump tried to reset his campaign at a rally in battleground Pennsylvania on Saturday as polls show Kamala Harris pulling ahead in key swing states.

But the former president quickly broke away from the prepared speech about economic issues to launch personal attacks on Harris including accusations that her agenda is both communist and fascist, and that she has “the laugh of a crazy person".

Communism and Fascism are polar opposites. It is definitely something a weird person would say. Or perhaps he is in cognitive decline and does not know the difference.
RayR
a year ago
Communism and Fascism are NOT polar opposites. They both originate from SOCIALISM, they are both LEFT AUTHORITARIAN and UTOPIAN.

If Trump said Kamala's agenda is both communist and fascist (as was Bidnen's agenda also), he is CORRECT.

If Trump said Kamala has “the laugh of a crazy person, " we all know that is indisputable.
MaduroJorge
a year ago
Bob, I see you didn't eat your Wheaties this morning.

Communism and Fascism are two sides of the same coin.
BuckyB93
a year ago

Bob, I see you didn't eat your Wheaties this morning.

Communism and Fascism are two sides of the same coin.

MaduroJorge wrote:


But if the coin is a magnet with one face the north pole and the other the south pole then they would be polar opposites.
MaduroJorge
a year ago
guess so.
But as they say, in romance opposites attract.
BuckyB93
a year ago

guess so.
But as they say, in romance opposites attract.

MaduroJorge wrote:


True, true...

“Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine”
- Rick Blaine (Humphrey Bogart)
MaduroJorge
a year ago
Bogart!! Nice.

"Here's looking at you kid"
jeebling
a year ago
Polar opposites? Perhaps you are in cognitive decline, Bob or more likely you think you’re smarter than you are.
Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
University of Idaho

Communism
Most generally, communism refers to community ownership of property, with the end goal being complete social equality via economic equality. Communism is generally seen by communist countries as an idealized utopian economic and social state that the country as a whole is working toward; that is to say that pure communism is the ideal that the People’s Republic of China is (was?) working toward. Such an ideal often justifies means (such as authoritarianism or totalitariansim) that are not themselves communist ideals.

Fundamentally, communism argues that all labor belongs to the individual laborer; no man can own another man's body, and therefore each man owns his own labor. In this model all "profit" actually belongs in part to the laborer, not, or not just, those who control the means of production, such as the business or factory owner. Profit that is not shared with the laborer, therefore, is
Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
University of Idaho

Fascism
The word descends from the Latin ‘fasces’, the bundle of sticks used by the Romans to symbolize their empire. This should clue you in that Fascism attempts to recapture both the glory and social organization of Rome.

Most generally, “a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.”

Unlike communism, fascism is opposed to state ownership of capital and economic equality is not a principle or goal. During the 1930s and WWII, communism and fascism represented the extreme left and right, respectively, in European politics. Hitler justified both Nazi anti-Semitism and dictatorship largely on the basis of his working to fight-off communism.

The church also played a major role in all of the European fascist countries (Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal) as the authority on religious and moral issues, which was opposed to the threat of "godless communists".

Mussolini, the Italian father of Fascism, writes that: “..Fascism 🇮🇸 the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society....

After Socialism, Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society; it denies that numbers alone can govern by means of a periodical consultation, and it affirms the immutable, beneficial, and fruitful inequality of mankind, which can never be permanently leveled through the mere operation of a mechanical process such as universal suffrage....”
jeebling
a year ago
If you think this is a discussion of Economics then you are truly lost. Trump is speaking to the authoritarian agenda. You can wave definitions around but it proves beyond a doubt that you don’t understand what they mean.
Stogie1020
a year ago
At least Trump said something. I hear he has a really nice basement he could hide in if he wanted to...
RayR
a year ago
Beware of LEFTY professors and their word definitions.

Fascism and socialism are both collectivist ideologies, just 2 sides of the same coin as has been said. As Mises wrote, "The main characteristic of collectivism is that it does not take notice of the individual’s will and moral self-determination."
Their goals are the same, to subjugate the individual and glorify the state.
What's the difference if the master is a dicktator or duhmacracy?

Ayn Rand also wrote something that was quite accurate, that the difference between communism and socialism is just a matter of method and degree. “There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism – by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.”


Even that old 18th Century Voltaire recognized collectivism as tyranny.
“So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men.”
MaduroJorge
a year ago
Socialism is the front yard with beautiful well-manicured
flowering DEI, Give Away bushes and Money trees welcoming
the masses to
The Communism House of Horrors!!
DrafterX
a year ago
That would be gay... 😟
jeebling
a year ago
Not gay. It’s art. Based on a Greek painting.
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