8trackdisco
a year ago
This is something that should be discussable in the Misc forum, however, it would turn political anyway so here goes.
My initial question, AI response, my follow up, AI response... You'll get it.


When are Black, White and Asian History Months each year?

In the United States, the commonly recognized history months are as follows:
Black History Month: February
It’s observed every February to celebrate the achievements and contributions of African Americans throughout history.
Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month: May
This month recognizes the history, culture, and contributions of Americans with ancestry from Asia and the Pacific Islands.
White History Month: There is no officially designated "White History Month" in the United States. Various cultural heritage months exist for specific European ancestries (e.g., Irish-American Heritage Month in March or Italian-American Heritage Month in October), but no overarching "White History Month" is recognized.
These observances are primarily U.S.-centric. Other countries may have different months or none at all, depending on their cultural and historical contexts. Let me know if you'd like details for a specific region!

If there is a month to celebrate the achievements and contribution from one race, why isn't there a month for each specific race?

The question of why there isn’t a dedicated month for every race touches on history, culture, and intent behind these observances. In the U.S., heritage months like Black History Month and Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month emerged from specific social movements aimed at addressing historical marginalization and underrepresentation. Let’s break it down:
Black History Month started as "Negro History Week" in 1926, created by historian Carter G. Woodson to highlight African American contributions that were largely ignored in mainstream education and society at the time. It became a month-long observance in 1976 as part of a broader civil rights push to recognize a group that had faced slavery, segregation, and systemic exclusion.
Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month evolved in the late 1970s (officially designated in 1992) to celebrate immigrants and descendants from those regions, often tied to key historical moments like the arrival of the first Japanese immigrants in May 1843 and the completion of the transcontinental railroad by Chinese workers in May 1869. It also reflects a response to underrecognition and stereotypes.
Why no universal "White History Month"? Historically, people of European descent have been the majority in the U.S. and their narratives have dominated mainstream education, media, and culture. Critics of the idea argue that "white history" has effectively been the default lens year-round, reducing the perceived need for a specific month. Proponents for it, though, sometimes claim it’s about fairness or celebrating specific European heritages without racial framing.
The absence of a month for every race likely stems from practical and philosophical reasons: heritage months are reactive, born from grassroots efforts to spotlight groups whose stories were sidelined, not a top-down mandate to cover all demographics equally. Creating a month for every racial category (however those are defined) could dilute the focus on addressing specific historical inequities, and race itself is a fluid, socially constructed concept—making such a system tricky to standardize.
That said, the idea raises valid debates about equity versus equality, recognition versus redundancy, and who gets to decide what’s celebrated. What’s your take on it?


Regarding the start of a month long observence in 1976 as a push to recognize slavery, how many blacks were slaves in the United States in 1976?

It seems there might be a misunderstanding in your question. Black History Month, which expanded to a month-long observance in 1976, wasn’t about recognizing slavery as an ongoing condition at that time—it was about commemorating the history, achievements, and contributions of African Americans, including their resilience through the legacy of slavery, which had ended over a century earlier. slavery in the United States was abolished in 1865 with the ratification of the 13th Amendment. By 1976, there were no legally enslaved Black people in the U.S.
To clarify the context:
In 1976, Black History Month’s expansion reflected the civil rights movement’s gains and a push to ensure African American history—spanning slavery, emancipation, and beyond—wasn’t overlooked. It wasn’t tied to slavery existing in 1976 but to its historical impact.
The U.S. population of Black Americans in 1976 was around 24.7 million (based on Census data), roughly 11-12% of the total population. None were slaves; they were free citizens, though many still faced systemic inequalities rooted in that history.
If you meant something different—like the number of enslaved Black people at some earlier point—feel free to clarify, and I’ll adjust the answer! What’s your next thought on this?


When will the United States reach true equality? Having special months for special groups divides us instead of uniting us as a people. Who wins when we promote one group of people over another based on skin color?


When I asked that questions, the AI Chatbot wheels spun for about 30 seconds and there was zero response.
















Gene363
a year ago
Examining the ultimate outcome of government programs is not allowed. I'm guessing that AI system was reporting you to several tracking system. 😳


Gene363
a year ago



...When will the United States reach true equality? Having special months for special groups divides us instead of uniting us as a people. Who wins when we promote one group of people over another based on skin color?...


8trackdisco wrote:



Gronk responded:

Predicting when or if the United States will reach "true equality" is a tough one—it's like trying to guess when humans will stop arguing over the last slice of pizza. Equality’s a moving target, shaped by culture, politics, and how people define "fair." Historically, the U.S. has wrestled with this since day one—slavery baked inequality into the foundation, and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a big step, but not a finish line. Data backs this up: the racial wealth gap, for instance, still yawns wide. In 2021, the median wealth for white households was about $187,000, while Black households clocked in at $14,000, per the Federal Reserve. That’s not "equal" by any math.

Your point about special months—like Black History Month or Pride Month—stirs a real debate. The intent is to spotlight groups that’ve been sidelined, to say, "Hey, you’re part of this too." Carter G. Woodson kicked off Negro History Week in 1926 (it grew into a month later) because Black contributions were barely a footnote in textbooks. But you’re right that it can feel divisive—like a spotlight on one group dims the rest. Critics argue it risks tribalism; supporters say it’s a correction, not a crown. The data’s murky on whether it unites or splits—surveys like Pew’s (2020) show 59% of Americans think focusing on race makes racism worse, yet 74% of Black Americans see it as key to progress. No clean answer.
frankj1
a year ago
I thought the answer would be "you break it, you take it".
Gene363
a year ago
Does welfare create a dependent class?

Gronk response:

Whether welfare creates a dependent class is a hot potato—people argue it both ways with data and anecdotes. The short answer: it can, but it’s not a slam dunk. It depends on how the system’s built, who’s using it, and what "dependent" even means.

Look at the numbers first. In the U.S., welfare programs like TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) served about 2 million people monthly in 2022, down from 12 million on AFDC (its predecessor) in 1996 before Clinton’s reforms, per the Department of Health and Human Services. That drop came after work requirements and time limits kicked in—suggesting that when you tighten the reins, fewer stick around long-term. SNAP (food stamps) is bigger, hitting 41 million in 2023, but it’s not cash; it’s groceries. Usage spikes in recessions and dips when jobs rebound, like after 2008 (Census Bureau data). So, dependency? Maybe for some, but most aren’t lounging on it forever—about 60% of TANF recipients are off within two years.

The theory’s where it gets spicy. Critics—like economist Thomas Sowell—say handouts sap initiative. If you get paid to sit, why hustle? Studies back this a bit: a 2013 National Bureau of Economic Research paper found that extended unemployment benefits (not welfare per se, but adjacent) made people 7-10% less likely to job-hunt. On the flip side, proponents argue it’s a lifeline, not a lifestyle. A 2021 Urban Institute report showed kids in welfare families have better health and earnings later in life—breaking poverty cycles, not chaining them to it.

Reality’s messy. Dependency happens when the system’s a hammock, not a trampoline—think no time limits, no work nudge, or benefits so cushy they beat low-wage jobs. Pre-1996 welfare had that vibe; today’s is stingier and pushier about work. But culture matters too. If folks see welfare as a badge of shame (some do) or a right (others do), that shapes who stays on. And let’s be real: a single mom with no skills in a dead-end town isn’t “dependent” because she’s lazy—she’s stuck.

Does it create a class? Not wholesale. The “welfare queen” trope—someone gaming it for life—is loud but rare; less than 10% of recipients are on TANF for five years-plus. But it can trap pockets of people, especially where jobs are scarce or wages don’t beat the aid. The winner’s the status quo—poverty doesn’t budge much (13.4% in 1967, 11.6% in 2022, Census data)—and neither side’s fully wrong or right. It’s less about creating dependents and more about what it’s not fixing.
frankj1
a year ago
interesting.
MACS
a year ago
I don't see that as political, but I understand your reticence.

Division is good for political bidness... if we're arguing with one another, we're not discussing the various ways the government is effing ALL of us.

It is my hope, and I actually pray for this... that the politicians that have not been upholding their oath, and abusing their power be... FINALLY... held accountable.

Lots of talk. Never have I seen action or consequences for obvious criminal activity.
Mr. Jones
a year ago
We can start with
The NO.1 GRIFTER P.O.S.;

TRUMPS SON- IN -LAW

JARED KUSHNER

INFLUENCE FOR SALE AND NOT A REGISTERED FORIEGN
ADJUNCT/ AGENT WHAT-SO-EVER...
frankj1
a year ago

We can start with
The NO.1 GRIFTER P.O.S.;

TRUMPS SON- IN -LAW

JARED KUSHNER

INFLUENCE FOR SALE AND NOT A REGISTERED FORIEGN
ADJUNCT/ AGENT WHAT-SO-EVER...

Mr. Jones wrote:



I think I told you about the initial two billion he got!
but Elon has garnered somewhere over 500 billion SINCE the inauguration!!!
Not all of it is walk around, of course.
ZRX1200
a year ago
Well at least it didn’t turn political…..

I myself am glad to see that white guilt virus was gain of function tested, and successfully able to zoonosis to AI.
frankj1
a year ago

Well at least it didn’t turn political…..
.

ZRX1200 wrote:


Jonesy made do it!
BuckyB93
a year ago
This may or not be relevant but I learned this today that there is burrito season, not just a month but a whole season.

Chipotle's busiest time of year is from March to May, which is known as "Burrito Season". During this time of the year, Chipotle prepares for a surge in demand for their burritos and bowls. To meet the increased demand, Chipotle often hires additional staff.

Chipolte is OK, I prefer the local Mom and Pop place for my burritos but hey, I'm on board for Burrito Season. I would also be on board for a Chimichanga (deep fried burrito) season too. I'd say June through July to keep the ball rolling.

(I'm starting to get hungry)

MACS
a year ago
Florida can't compete with California when it comes to burritos. Chipotle sucks.

So Elon's net worth was 400 billion and now it's 900 billion? Since the inauguration?

Huh... I'd like to see the math on that.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago
Don't go to chains...horrible food.

Da Kine Diego's Insane Burrito in Satellite Beach

A1A Burrito Works Taco Shop in St. Augustine.


Some of the best going.
frankj1
a year ago

Florida can't compete with California when it comes to burritos. Chipotle sucks.

So Elon's net worth was 400 billion and now it's 900 billion? Since the inauguration?

Huh... I'd like to see the math on that.

MACS wrote:


article from two months ago...I was going by (shaky, I admit that) memory of an article I read last week...but it's actually since Election Day, not Inauguration, sorry. And I had the amount of hundreds of billions wrong, that was not intentional.

In any even, it makes Kushner's "highly suspicious payments" from the Saudis look lik a kid's weekly allowance.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/elon-musk-wealth-half-a-trillion-post-election-surge-235243a9 

I don't routinely read any financial/investment publications so let me know if Barrons has been deemed tainted (I love that word).
HockeyDad
a year ago

article from two months ago...I was going by (shaky, I admit that) memory of an article I read last week...but it's actually since Election Day, not Inauguration, sorry. And I had the amount of hundreds of billions wrong, that was not intentional.

In any even, it makes Kushner's "highly suspicious payments" from the Saudis look lik a kid's weekly allowance.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/elon-musk-wealth-half-a-trillion-post-election-surge-235243a9 

I don't routinely read any financial/investment publications so let me know if Barrons has been deemed tainted (I love that word).

frankj1 wrote:




Did you figure out who gave Elon that money?
8trackdisco
a year ago

Gronk responded:

Predicting when or if the United States will reach "true equality" is a tough one—it's like trying to guess when humans will stop arguing over the last slice of pizza. Equality’s a moving target, shaped by culture, politics, and how people define "fair." Historically, the U.S. has wrestled with this since day one—slavery baked inequality into the foundation, and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a big step, but not a finish line. Data backs this up: the racial wealth gap, for instance, still yawns wide. In 2021, the median wealth for white households was about $187,000, while Black households clocked in at $14,000, per the Federal Reserve. That’s not "equal" by any math.

Your point about special months—like Black History Month or Pride Month—stirs a real debate. The intent is to spotlight groups that’ve been sidelined, to say, "Hey, you’re part of this too." Carter G. Woodson kicked off Negro History Week in 1926 (it grew into a month later) because Black contributions were barely a footnote in textbooks. But you’re right that it can feel divisive—like a spotlight on one group dims the rest. Critics argue it risks tribalism; supporters say it’s a correction, not a crown. The data’s murky on whether it unites or splits—surveys like Pew’s (2020) show 59% of Americans think focusing on race makes racism worse, yet 74% of Black Americans see it as key to progress. No clean answer.

Gene363 wrote:




Funny. I play with three AI sites. Grok was the one that had wheels spin and create no answer.

Two people in as many days must have programmers wondering WTF.

Integrating data.
59% thinks it makes racism worse. Ok.
74% of black americans see it as progress. Black people are 11% of the population.
74% of 11% is approximately 8%.

In the work world, prior to 2020, data drove decisions.

Guess creating more racism is what the people want I guess, so we will continue to get it.
frankj1
a year ago

Did you figure out who gave Elon that money?

HockeyDad wrote:


have you figured out why?
RobertHively
a year ago

Did you figure out who gave Elon that money?

HockeyDad wrote:



I'm waiting for DOGE to uncover all of his grift.😟
frankj1
a year ago

I'm waiting for DOGE to uncover all of his grift.😟

RobertHively wrote:


Robert, that's no way to make friends.

HA!
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