Gene363
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a year ago
The USS Liberty, a US Navy spy ship and, crew, sent to a point less than thirteen miles off the coast of Egypt to be sacrificed. The propose was two fold, to assist Israil in the Six Day War and allow the US to attack Cairo... with nuclear weapons, and do a preemptive nuclear attack on the USSR.

The USA colluded with Israil to sink the USS Liberty and make sure there were no survivors. Israel attacked the ship from the air and with shipboard torpedos.

This story has been suppressed for many years, but all Americans need to understand how monstrous the Deep State really is. Including, the CIA, NSA, ONI and yes, the POTUS, in this case LBJ, whom if there is any justice, is burning in the very depths of hell.

We were 7 minutes away from a thermonuclear world war. The Liberty was supposed to be destroyed killing all hands. The plan was for Israil sink the Liberty and blame Egypt. Blaming Egypt set them up for an attack by the Navy, using nuclear bombs.

The planes, armed with nuclear weapons, were launched and got within 7 minutes flying time from Cairo, Egypt, the target, when they were recalled. By the grace of God and the crew of the Liberty they managed to get out an SOS in spite of the the attacking jet from Israil targeting all their antennas. Their actions saved the rest of the crew and prevented WWIII because the USSR knew the plan. The USSR planed an all out first strike should a mushroom cloud appear over Cairo.

We were just seven MF'ing minutes from destroying the entire world. I can only hope all those involved in planning this heinous plan, both in the USA and Israil, are burning in hell.


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Blood in the Water: How the US and Israel Conspired to Ambush the USS Liberty

By Joan Mellen

Presents evidence suggesting collusion between US and Israeli intelligence in the attack on a US naval surveillance vessel during the Six-Day War and the more than fifty-year long cover-up.On June 8, 1967, the USS Liberty, an unarmed intelligence ship reporting to the Joint Chiefs of Staff under the auspices of the National Security Agency, was positioned in international waters off the coast of Egypt when it was attacked with deadly violence by unmarked jet planes firing rockets and machine guns and throwing napalm onto its deck. This ambush was followed by a torpedo strike that blew a forty-foot hole in the starboard side of the ship. Lacking the capacity to defend themselves, thirty-four sailors were killed and 174 wounded, many for life. By the end of the day, Israel had confessed to having been the aggressor, simultaneously arguing that the attack had been an "accident" and a "mistake."The facts said otherwise. So intense and sustained was the attack - it lasted for nearly an hour and a half - so specific was the aiming for the antennae and satellite dish on deck, that it was scarcely credible that Israel's aggression was not deliberate; such was the view of Marshall Carter, the director of the National Security Agency, his deputy director Louis Tordella, and Richard Helms, the Director of Central Intelligence.Based on interviews with more than forty survivors, knowledgeable political insiders, and Soviet archives of the period, investigative writer Joan Mellen presents evidence suggesting complicity between US and Israeli intelligence in the attack on Liberty and the more than fifty-year long cover-up. What were the underlying motives? Was this a false flag operation conducted in the midst of the Six-Day War? Was it conceivable that Israel would have initiated such an operation without a green light from the United States?For the sake of justice, truth and the murdered and surviving sailors, this is a story demanding to be told.



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From the book, "Remember the Liberty"

By: Phillip F. Nelson (Author), Ronald G. Kukal (Author), Ernest A. Gallo (Author), Phillip F. Tourney (Author), Raymond McGovern (Foreword)

In the annals of US military history, there are no doubt many unsolved and perplexing mysteries, but few could compare to the fate of the US Navy spy ship that was mercilessly attacked by one of its closest allies intentionally and without warning. One of the reasons it is still a mystery is because it is also the only peacetime attack on a US naval vessel that, to this day, has never been investigated by the Congress of the United States.
The USS Liberty was a 455-foot, 10,150-ton electronic intercept spy ship, originally a standard-design Victory Ship--a more evolved version of the World War II Liberty Ships--which were built as supply ships, not intended for direct fighting. The Liberty had been converted to an Auxiliary Technical Research Ship (AGTR), known colloquially as a "spy ship," first deployed in 1965; its top speed was only 18 knots.

Yet the Liberty's fate, one of the most enigmatic, unresolved military mysteries of all time, is, paradoxically at its core, quite clear-cut and undisputed. The basic facts generally accepted by all are that, on the fourth day of the Six Day War between Israel and its Arab neighbors (Egypt, Syria and Jordan), the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) savagely attacked the U.S. spy ship, the USS Liberty.

On the warm, sunny-bright day of June 8, 1967, starting at about 6:00 a.m., at least twelve, possibly thirteen Israeli aircraft of different types began surveilling the Liberty, some of which were only 1,000 feet or less in altitude, apparently to photograph and "map" her for later targeting purposes. The precision of the later attack could only have been accomplished through such pre-planning, specifically identifying the priority targets, starting with the gun mounts to render the ship defenseless, followed by all of the forty-five different radio antennae and related transmitting equipment. . Beginning just before 2:00 p.m., three unmarked French-built Mirage III-C swept-wing fighter jets, without warning, settled into a triangular formation, aimed straight at the Liberty and proceeded to bore down on the ship in a fast low-level attack that began with rockets targeted at the four gun mounts and heat-seeking missiles aimed at the communications gear, with their warmed transmitters. . When the attack was over, thirty-four men were dead and one hundred seventy-four were injured to varying degrees, some near death.

Unlike all other books ever written about the tragic attack - none of which provide a satisfactory explanation of what really caused it - Remember the Liberty! examines it in complete context of how it was positioned there by Johnson himself, for the very purpose of being attacked, and sunk, with every one of the 294 men on board going to the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea. His purpose was to use that event - while blaming Egyptian President Gamal Nasser for the attack - as a pretext for joining Israel in the war, even at the risk of igniting World War III with the Soviet Union. This book provides the only realistic explanation for why Lyndon Johnson did what he did, and why, in the heat of battle, he intervened with his Navy officers who were determined to rescue the Liberty and ordered them to recall the squadrons of fighter jets they had already dispatched - twice, 90 minutes apart - for that purpose.

When the heroic crew saved the ship from sinking, it stopped Johnson's plan to join Israel in the war and thereby saved the world from certain nuclear conflagration. It also prevented his strategy of entering what he felt would be a "popular war" (unlike his other one in Vietnam) in order to give him a better chance to be reelected president the following year. When that failed to materialize, so did his reelection campaign; ten months later he was forced to announce his decision to not re-run for the office that he had always considered his destiny.


RobertHively
a year ago

You're gonna get deported to El Salvador wiff da college students.😟
Brewha
a year ago
And they said Trump would do no good.....
RobertHively
a year ago

And they said Trump would do no good.....

Brewha wrote:




Lol! =d>
Mr. Jones
a year ago
Get to KNOW ...

A

"FALSE FLAG EVENT"

IM PRETTY sure that's what I prevented ( A NUCLEAR DIRTY BOMB DEVICE) on sept.9, 2012
In Harrisburg, PA...
With 10-12 Saudis & 6'10" Egyptian and 20-25 Somalis in 5? beater cars blowing oil smoke clouds and no hubcap on an " ART WALK SUNDAY" THAT DAY...

BUNCH OF PATSIES sent by the deep state? Illuminates?
Or coulda' been the actual "REAL DEAL"??
WHO KNOWS??

ONLY THE JSOC TEAM WHO KILLED THEM ALL THEN THREATENED EVERY WITNESS AT THE HILTON HOTEL IN THE SQUARE WITH AN EARLY ACCUDENTAL DEATH, NO RELEASE WHATSOEVER TO THE PRESS OR PUBLIC...COMPLETE "BLACK OPS" SCENARIO...
RobertHively
a year ago
Op

I watched a doc on the USS Liberty a couple years ago. It's very sad, and I'm sure to most people it's "shocking", and probably unbelievable, that our "greatest ally" would conspire with our own government to carry it out...

Jonesy mentioned "false flag" attacks... I've found that a lot of the major events over the last 100+ years were false flags. They're always used as a pretext for war or to advance some agenda--or both. For the most part conspiracy theory is really conspira-fact. (But you know, I am a Qbert😟)

I remember Macs once posted something like, if it's a conspiracy theory now just give it six months.(and it will be facts) Lol! But, most people just don't want to know the damn truth. They want the state to tell them what to think, and that's ok too. It's just not for me.
Gene363
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a year ago
A video of USS Liberty survivor Phill Tourney interviewed by Candace Owens.



5,716,481 views, but nothing on "mainstream" media.


frankj1
a year ago
Gonna say a few things. May or may not stick around here to support or defend, but...

We all want to be able to believe propositions that advance our deeper hopes and beliefs. I am no different.

That said, I'd like to believe the original story from years ago, as I remember the times, that Israel said it was like an accident, a miscommunication, that they did not realize what the ship was nor whose it was.

But I can't.

I also don't buy Mellen's story of US/Israeli collaboration to sacrifice our military so as to justify nuking Egypt, Russia or whoever this crazy theory also involved.

What I want to believe is based on the facts of what Israel faced in this particular episode, one of several they faced from their neighbors from the day they were born, which was their elimination.

Geographical facts aren't opinions. Israel was/is surrounded by countries dedicated to ending it's existence. At that point in time, the aggression was not sneaky radical chit, it was the national policy of it's neighbors...and it's neighbors were amassing military along the borders....Why? Duh.

Preemptive strikes can be debated as to whether they are aggression or acts of defense (should be obvious how I feel) but that's a different topic for later. But there can be no debate whether there would be an Israel today had that not been done. Within six days (Beehive, you'll like this) the joke was Israel had to rest on the seventh day,

By day six, Israel had tanks within 50 miles of Cairo...welcome to the peace negotiation table Egypt, and other strategic locations were neutralized or controlled.

As for the op...I believe that Israel acted alone in destroying the US ship. The reason I have chosen to believe, and I also believe is the reason we kinda let it slide, is that they begged us to stop that "communications" ship from sending out intel as it endangered Israel's efforts to survive...and we did not comply.
With the clock ticking and their very existence jeopardized by our negligence, they took matters into their own hands.

A matter of national survival.

Our compliance was not in joining them in the unthinkable, but in realizing we would have franked them if that ship kept operating and realizing that, distorted the facts to protect Israel due to our stupidity.



8trackdisco
a year ago

The USS Liberty, a US Navy spy ship and, crew, sent to a point less than thirteen miles off the coast of Egypt to be sacrificed. The propose was two fold, to assist Israil in the Six Day War and allow the US to attack Cairo... with nuclear weapons, and do a preemptive nuclear attack on the USSR.

The USA colluded with Israil to sink the USS Liberty and make sure there were no survivors. Israel attacked the ship from the air and with shipboard torpedos.

This story has been suppressed for many years, but all Americans need to understand how monstrous the Deep State really is. Including, the CIA, NSA, ONI and yes, the POTUS, in this case LBJ, whom if there is any justice, is burning in the very depths of hell.

We were 7 minutes away from a thermonuclear world war. The Liberty was supposed to be destroyed killing all hands. The plan was for Israil sink the Liberty and blame Egypt. Blaming Egypt set them up for an attack by the Navy, using nuclear bombs.

The planes, armed with nuclear weapons, were launched and got within 7 minutes flying time from Cairo, Egypt, the target, when they were recalled. By the grace of God and the crew of the Liberty they managed to get out an SOS in spite of the the attacking jet from Israil targeting all their antennas. Their actions saved the rest of the crew and prevented WWIII because the USSR knew the plan. The USSR planed an all out first strike should a mushroom cloud appear over Cairo.

We were just seven MF'ing minutes from destroying the entire world. I can only hope all those involved in planning this heinous plan, both in the USA and Israil, are burning in hell.


===========================

Blood in the Water: How the US and Israel Conspired to Ambush the USS Liberty

By Joan Mellen



===========================
From the book, "Remember the Liberty"

By: Phillip F. Nelson (Author), Ronald G. Kukal (Author), Ernest A. Gallo (Author), Phillip F. Tourney (Author), Raymond McGovern (Foreword)

Gene363 wrote:



Although I am no fan of the current president, he did facilitate the (allegedly full) relefase of the JFK files.

He would be more likely to release the files on this one than any other president.

Ike's warning about the Military Industrial Complex 65? year ago was real then. Imagine where we are now.

The CIA is making the FBI look like chiorboys.
Gene363
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a year ago

Although I am no fan of the current president, he did facilitate the (allegedly full) relefase of the JFK files.

He would be more likely to release the files on this one than any other president.

Ike's warning about the Military Industrial Complex 65? year ago was real then. Imagine where we are now.

The CIA is making the FBI look like chiorboys.

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100% I suspect by now any records, other than the memory of a lot of old participants, have been destroyed. I believe it was the CIA that destroyed many records, but missed some financial records that recorded many crimes.
Gene363
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a year ago
A four hour Video, Sacrificing Liberty

The true story of the USS. Liberty is more shocking than any spy novel written by Tom Clancy. The most top-secret spy ship in the world. Its client was the NSA. The ship and its 294 U.S. Navy sailors were rushed to the Mediterranean Sea. Only the White House and Pentagon knew that Israel was ready to attack Arab nations. The USS. Liberty was deliberately sent into a kill zone. The casualties were staggering: 34 killed and 174 wounded. The coverup began immediately and has continued since 1967. Until now! The aging survivors have finally told their true story. Sacrificing Liberty sets the record straight.





Gene363
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a year ago
I must say, if the attack by Israil was actually a mistake, why was no aid rendered, no notification to the US, absolutely nothing done ti mitigate the situation?

It was seventeen hours after the attack that the Navy arrived. The criminals that hatched this diabolical plan hoped all that time the ship would sink with all hands.

Even after help arrived, the Navy did not send the ship to the closest repair facilities on Crete, they make them sail to the opposite side of Mediterranean to Malta. Again, in the hope the jury rigged repairs would fail and their problems would be sunk.

This story makes my blood boil.
8trackdisco
a year ago

I must say, if the attack by Israil was actually a mistake, why was no aid rendered, no notification to the US, absolutely nothing done to mitigate the situation?

Gene363 wrote:


Can think about the many times when I've done significant damage in situations, felt bad/awful, and left the scene never to return.

It's 100% wrong. In my defense, I never attacked a warship. 😰
Gene363
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a year ago

Can think about the many times when I've done significant damage in situations, felt bad/awful, and left the scene never to return.

It's 100% wrong. In my defense, I never attacked a warship. 😰

8trackdisco wrote:



Humans are like that. πŸ˜‡

You prolly need "government money" to think about attacking a warship, even then, you might need a bigger gun.


8trackdisco
a year ago

Humans are like that. πŸ˜‡

You prolly need "government money" to think about attacking a warship, even then, you might need a bigger gun.

Gene363 wrote:



Good point.
Gene363
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a year ago
How about that, Al Jazeera English put out a YT video with extensive interviews of USS Liberty crew members, TEN YEARS ago.



3,000,375 views Nov 3, 2014 #USSLiberty #Israel #AljazeeraEnglish
Al Jazeera investigates the shocking truth behind a deadly Israeli attack on a US naval vessel.
In 1967, at the height of the Arab-Israeli Six-Day War, the Israeli Air Force launched an unprovoked attack on the USS Liberty, a US Navy spy ship that was monitoring the conflict from the safety of international waters in the Mediterranean.

Israeli jet fighters hit the vessel with rockets, cannon fire and napalm, before three Israeli torpedo boats moved in to launch a second more devastating attack. Though she did not sink, the Liberty was badly damaged. Thirty-four US servicemen and civilian analysts were killed, another 171 were wounded.

Later Israel apologised for what it claimed to be a tragic case of mistaken identity. It said that it had believed the ship to be hostile Egyptian naval vessel. US President Lyndon Johnson was privately furious but publicly the White House chose not to challenge the word of its closest Middle East ally and accepted that the attack had been a catastrophic accident.

However, as this exclusive Al Jazeera investigation reveals, fresh evidence throws new light on exactly what happened that fateful day – and the remarkable cover up that followed.


DrafterX
a year ago
Interesting stuff Gene... πŸ€”
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