So Mote It Be!!

Cornellius lodge #441

Chicago,Il

Hey guys! I am a 3erd degree master mason. Lodge 110, Kenova, West Virginia. I be in now for alittle over a year now. I am 23 years old, the youngs member of my lodge. Alot of older men belong to my lodge. Is that how it is in you lodge? It is one of my highlite's of the week when I go. We meet 2 time a month, and havn't mess a meeting yet. In fact that is where I smoke most of my cigars. And I would like to say that we are not a secret society. If we where a secret society you guys would have never heard of us. We are a society with secrets.

I was sponsored for an "interview" with the local Masons. The found out I was Jewish and that ended that.

It is fairly clear that their acceptance of all faiths may usually start and end with christianity.

So...I became and Elk. More to my middle class liking with a cheaper bar.

found out years after he died that my father was a 32 deg masion (I was 16 at the time) now I am a 32 deg masion Garfield #569 Hammond,IN. not seen anything about non-christians not being welcome.

Sorry to hear that rayder, that certainly wasn't fair or even appropriate (draw two lines to connect the square and compass tips and you have Solomon's seal ....Star of David).

I guess you can make all the rules you want, but the "good ole boys" will do what they want anyway.

When I was interviewed, I didn't tell them anything about my spitiuality, nor did they ask.

It's something that is normally not talked about, but Mormons share many traits with Freemasons... as their founder, Joseph Smith, was one. Their temple "garments" are donned with the square (right breast) and compas (left breast) and other symbols. Mormon temples are also full of Masonic symbols. There's also that whole "secret" vs. "sacred" thing... I don't know how many times I've heard someone say "it's not secret... it's sacred".

BAC, are you Mormon?

I don't currently follow any "organized" religion, bassdude. Growing up in Utah I attended Mormon church because my friends went. My ex came from a devout Mormon family. I, however, have never lived a life "worthy" of going to the temple. 😉

I was just curious. I was in the military with a few Mormons and their beliefs were quite interesting.

I'm surrounded by "returned missionaries" here at work. I love to get them all going. They seem to get frustrated so easily when someone questions their beliefs... I have to keep telling them "I'm not arguing, I'm discussing!". hee hee hee...

Do an internet search on the similarities between Mormons and Freemasons. The strong "male dominant" feel of Mormonism, their elitism, the symbolism… it's really quite interesting.

but the underwear thing??

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nevermind......got it.

WOW!!

The origination of the Church of Mormon is friggin interesting.

I'm gonna have to pick up a book on this.

My grandfather was a 32nd, and I was in DeMolay for a couple of years during high school.

Jacques DeMolay was a Grand Master of the Knights Templar.

Demolay was the last Grand Master of the Templars he was burned at the stake on Friday the Thirteenth. His last words cursed the current Pope and Cardinal saying that they would join him within the year, and they did. I would go into a complete story of why he was MURDERED but

I think my fingers would hurt when I was finished.

http://www.jacquesdemolay.org/ 

ordinarily, I would offer some opinions on this (its my "thing"), but right now I only have one hand....got a sick little girl on my other arm.

Also....check out the DeMolay/Shroud of Turin theory.

Thanks for the page Andy!

I admit I was wrong about the cardinal, I guess my memory is a little fuzzy. I will look when I get home but I am certain the date of execution was not the 18th.

marrington,

King Philip's senechals arranged for the simultaneous arrest of all known Templars in France on Friday 13.

It is that day that sealed the fate of many.

DeMolay was an OLD man, who had been tortured heinously to extract a confession. Some believe the that he was actually crucified in the manner in which Christ was believed to be crucified until he "confessed" from the agony (some believe that the Shroud of Turin was actually the shroud in which he was wrapped as part of this twisted process).

After several years of watching the corrupt authorities hunt down his knights, he resolved to recant his confession (knowing it would mean death) in a public display, which was the ultimate embarrassment for King Phil, who had him summarily roasted alive.

It is noteworthy that the Pope later published a tract claiming that no REAL evidence of heresy had been discovered during this mini-inquisition.

Through all of this the famous "Templar" treasure was never found, nor was their naval fleet ever seen again.

There are countless theories regarding the legacy of the discredited Templars, ranging from the discovery of N. America to the inspiration of the English Peasant's Revolt in the 1300s.

This is really fun stuff to research.

Nice to meet you Andytv.

The Templars are a very interesting bit of Masonic History, just a little tid bit of information for you. While in Italy I was looking for a nice bottle of Port wine and came across a company based in Portugal, on that ottle I found a Templar crest embossed into the glass with the Templar Motto! I was floored; and of course had to by that bottle of port and have not bought a different brand since, because it is a very noce port! Oh yeah, the brand is Ramos y Pinto