ryantp
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Monday, November 28, 2005 12:54:00 PM
Teens Turning to Cigars By Randy Dotinga

HealthDay Reporter

48 minutes ago

MONDAY, Nov. 28 (HealthDay News) -- The next time you walk by a group of teenagers surrounded by tobacco smoke, don't assume they're puffing away on Marlboros or Virginia Slims.

A new report finds that adolescents --including girls -- are turning to cigars in increasing numbers.

Why would any teen want to take that risk? Because fashions have changed, said Cristine Delnevo, an associate professor of public health at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey and co-author of a report in the December 2005 issue of the American Journal of Public Health.

Because of celebrity-backed advertisements, "the cigar industry (has) successfully marketed their products to adult women and adolescents of both sexes," she said. And there's another factor: a variety of new cigar flavors -- including grape, cinnamon and apple -- are making them even more appealing.

Even so, Delnevo contended, health officials haven't put the spotlight on kids and cigars: "This issue is under our radar."

Delnevo and colleagues examined recent statistics and found that overall cigar consumption in the United States has jumped by more than 28 percent between 2000 and 2004.

They also point to data from the 2004 New Jersey Youth Tobacco Survey, which found that cigarette use among teens had declined by almost 30 percent between 2001 and 2004, but high school boys are now more likely to smoke cigars than cigarettes.

About 17 percent of the New Jersey boys surveyed said they smoke cigars, compared to 16 percent who smoke cigarettes; 10 percent of high-school girls said they smoked cigars.

Last year, a survey of 4,409 Cleveland-area teens found that cigar use among teens (23 percent) outpaced cigarette use (16 percent).

"We may be deceiving ourselves into thinking that we are winning the war against smoking based solely on the figures relating to cigarette smokers, without focusing on the figures related to cigar smokers," said John Banzhaf III, executive director of the Action on Smoking and Health organization. Banzhaf, public interest law professor at George Washington University Law School, is familiar with the findings of the new report.

In addition to the influence of advertising and new flavors, Delnevo said price is playing a major role in boosting cigar use among teens. In some states, like New Jersey, differences in tobacco tax levels actually make it cheaper to smoke cigars than cigarettes, she said.

What to do? Delnevo said states need to do a better job of taxing cigars appropriately and regulating where they're sold, so it's harder for kids to get their hands on them.

Delnevo and Banzhaf are also not swayed by the suggestion that cigars are healthier than cigarettes because people might smoke fewer per day.

"It's hard to make a direct comparison because it depends on how often one smokes each product, the extent to which the cigar smoke is inhaled, and which cancers we focus on," Banzhaf said.

Even so, he added, "most experts would agree that cigar smoking is clearly not less dangerous than cigarette smoking."

There's also the risk that cigar smoking will create nicotine addiction, Delnevo said.

"Once that happens, does it matter which tobacco product youth are addicted to?" she said. "In this respect, the possibility exists that a youth could start smoking cigars, become addicted, and later use cigarettes. "

More information

Learn more about the risks of cigar smoking from the American Cancer Society.

billyjackson
Monday, November 28, 2005 12:55:00 PM
"And there's another factor: a variety of new cigar flavors -- including grape, cinnamon and apple -- are making them even more appealing."

i stopped reading here. IMO, they are not talking about cigars.

ryantp
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Monday, November 28, 2005 1:01:00 PM
^

They may not be talking about the kind of cigars you or I would smoke, but when they begin restricting - they'll include all types.

billyjackson
Monday, November 28, 2005 1:12:00 PM
if they restrict, they'll restrict. Whether it ends up being smoking bans and/or taxes.

And we'll keep smoking them. I doubt many on this board would stop smoking cigars cause of the tax or a ban. We might not like it, but we will persevere

As far as teenagers smoking cigars, teens drink, too. To think that taxes will deter teens from vices is dumb on that guy's part. Enforcing existing age limits sounds reasonable....but not sure he's looking for reasonable.

So, yes, I was being a facetious ass about the "definition" of a cigar. And I agree that the teen cigar issue could push restrictions farther and quicker.

But "they" are going to restrict if they want to restrict. And either "their" constituents want the restrictions; there is no direct political participation in place for their constituents to block "them" from restricting; or the constituents don't speak up within the system to stop "them" from restricting.

That's waht I don't get about the smoking restrictions. Seems like everytime it happens, the outcry is deafening. Yet if the opposition is so strong, how the hell did it get pushed through in the first place?

I know...I know.....it's the liberals. Nevermind.

billyjackson
Monday, November 28, 2005 1:16:00 PM
just in case my tone isn't clear...wasn't trying to be an ass to anyone's opinions that may come up

just honest observations and questions

Stevo8785
Monday, November 28, 2005 1:17:00 PM
I agree, anti-smoking laws will affect us.

While the kids are smoking White Owls, we get the problems.

I was in a room and someone opened a peach flavored white owl, it was like he sprayed crappy air freshener.

beyond that, there are preservatives and other things in those cigars that are not in the kind we smoke

usahog
Monday, November 28, 2005 1:18:00 PM
Teens Cigars = Blunts.. they purchase these short fillers.. cut out the short fillers and fill it with their own Stash!

Hog

Stevo8785
Monday, November 28, 2005 1:28:00 PM
Athens, GA is the town where UGA is located. in that town they passed a smoking ban, later it spread to the state, but a smoking ban at a college campus. This happens because people don't pay attention to who is elected to the city councils
bloody spaniard
Monday, November 28, 2005 1:28:00 PM
Heavens to Murgatroid!! Say it ain't soooo...

Exit stage left.

lukin
Monday, November 28, 2005 1:40:00 PM
"What to do? Delnevo said states need to do a better job of taxing cigars appropriately"

Children cannot purchase cigars...they pay no taxes on them. Why would raising taxes somehow stop children from smoking? In almost every article I have ever read on smoking, this sentence is somehow included. To me, this is the main reason that most of these people are "concerned" They know that cigar and cigarette taxes are big business, they know that it is much easier to justify a raise in taxes by letting this "shocking" story out to the public to get support for a raise in taxes.

Secondly...and maybe I am crazy here...but don't all states tax tobacco regardless of whether it is in cigarette or cigar form? The study shows that either a) smoking is down amongst teens, or 😎 smoking is the same but WHAT they are smoking is different. Again, why would they need to raise taxes? If it is not on the rise, then why raise taxes to fight it?

8trackdisco
Monday, November 28, 2005 3:43:00 PM
If smoking cigars are the worst decision high school kids make, I'm all for it.
J.Redleg
Monday, November 28, 2005 4:30:00 PM
This sucks!