RICKAMAVEN
Friday, February 3, 2006 5:15:00 PM
i could not find the thread on which you discussed excess profits. this is me answer.

one of the reasons we have public utility commissions is to protect the consumer from price gouging.

enron figured a way around it.

if the PUC was not there, every producer of gas for the home and oil for the home and the phones, we use, would go after everyone's money. that's the american way. the PUC, as easily as it rolls over, is still

better then nothing.

the sherman antitrust act (http://1tiny.com/3K9) was written, before the current almost total

corruption of the congress and the senate. it was written by politicians interested in doing good for

the country, the country meaning people, not businesses like the pharmacutical companies.

was the oil companies price gouging ethical, no. was it good business? it depends on how you

feel about raising the price of something every one NEEDS, on some pretext, when there is no

reason to, may be good business, but so is robbing houses in the middle of the day, when no one

is there, if your career choice is thief. (which was one of james caan's better movies.)

the pretext the oil companies used was the "shortage of and or the price of oil." the evidence that

it was a sham is the profit. if the cost of oil affected the price of gas, where oh where did all that

extra profit come from if the price of oil affected the price at the pump? a dollar from you, a

quarter from me, a nickle from someone else, all adds up. it helps if you control the market with

no oversite by our elected officials.

the real shame of it is the acceptance of the public.

during the 1970 "crisis", people were saying, "ok, raise the price to a dollar and turn on the

pumps."

this time it went over three dollars with a lot of sighing, a lot of what can we do, and an

acceptance of what was happening.

we built a country to protect us all from government abuse. we have come too far away from

boston harbor.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the

governed.

instead of just focusing on the 2nd amendment,

i suggest a complete rereading of the declaration of independence and the constitution. you will

find we have become a different nation then the constitution prescribed.

incidently whenever the word militia is used it talks about government militia, soldiers, not hunters

with bazookas and machine guns.

did you know this is in the constitution:

The Congress shall have Power

To declare War and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended

no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of

the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any

King, Prince or foreign State.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and

public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime

shall have been committed,

they could not spell either, they spelled it "chusing."

sounds kind of suspect to me. maybe socialistic.

andytv
Friday, February 3, 2006 5:20:00 PM
the prices of gas suck, but by are no means excessive.

Last I checked, most people still drive to work all alone.......with at least room for three more people in their car.

If gas were $5 a gallon, it still means you could haul 500lbs of crap several miles. Do THAT with a wheelbarrow for five bucks!

MACS
Friday, February 3, 2006 6:08:00 PM
So excited you had to tell me twice!?

Andy... I carpool with my wife, does that count?

We could join a number of vanpools, but then we'd be stuck and have no flexibility.

Drathaar
Friday, February 3, 2006 6:09:00 PM
MACS...no longer Surface Warfare??? 🙂
MACS
Friday, February 3, 2006 6:13:00 PM
Well... I have been wearing brown shoes lately (they go better with the khaki uniform than black, though I take a lot of heat from my surface community brothers).

:^)

8trackdisco
Friday, February 3, 2006 6:16:00 PM
Andy,

I hope not many others share your view on this one. If Exxon announces record profits, and a number of Americans think its no big deal, that opens them up to raising prices even more.

They are just trying to see how much they can get without people begging the government. Same with natural gas. There has been a 49% increase in (if I heard correctly) 6 years.

8% per year for Natural Gas and an 75% increase in fuel over the past year has eaten my 3% raise.

If someone worked my same hours, worked in the same area, and would stop at my daycare to pick up my boy, I would carpool.

Drathaar
Friday, February 3, 2006 6:36:00 PM
Oh, ok Chief! I was commenting on ricka changing your moniker though 😉