Rick needs to take a tour of a Prison... then you can see how well they (the Prisoners) get along... they even have Internet services in allot of them so they can get out to the real world... its a joke... allot of friends of mine and also Co workers work for Prisons here in Illinois they all say some days it is hard to tell who is the one behind the bars because Burocrats and Lawers have made these Scumbags life so great they have more givin rights then the Prison Guards... that is totally WRONG!!!!! it used to be they gave up there rights when they commited Crimes... not no more because of BLEEDING HEARTED LIBERALS thinking ooowwwwww thats so Crule how there Treated BS!!!!!

I Say Shut there Lights Off!!!!!!!!

Hog

Mag,I respect your opinion and everyone else's here. The fact that we can have diametrically opposed opinions and discuss it here like gentlemen in a war of words rather than bullets is what makes this the great nation it is. I doubt anything I say will change your or anybody elses opinion and vice versa. I'd be willing to bet that in spite of that,we could all sit down and over cigars and drink continue this and many more like conversations. X

X ... gotta say, you're bang-on with that opinion ... in fact, isn't that in some respects why we have 'herfs' ?? ... I mean, smoke, drink and talk IS what we do at them ... LOL ...

I can't think of anything* I'd like more than to sit in conversation over drinks and cigars with you and with a lot of the other guys in our forum ...

* Actually, on second thought, I CAN think of SOME things I'd rather do ... let's change that to "I can't think of many things I'd like more etc" ...

You a funny guy Steverino,LOL. x

X, that was nicely put. I agree that our opinions differ alot but, it is great that in this country we can debate these issues and also agree to disagree! Thanks for your responces!

Mag

Just a little update: Several the Illinois Prison Review Board have said that they were mislead by former Governor George Ryan into thinking he would not grant blanket clemency to all of the state's Death Row inmates. "We were given assurances that he would be going by a case-by-case basis," board member Jorge Montes said. As all of us know, Ryan made history by pardoning four Death Row inmates and commuting the senteces of 167. Sources close to the Board have said that the panel recommended fewer than prisoners be granted clemency and did not recommend any pardons. Ryan's granting clemency to inmates whose guilt was not in doubt also bothered Montes and another board member, James Donahue. "There were slam dunk cases in the bunch," said Montes. "There were some where there was no question about confession, the witnesses." Another board member, Robert Dunne, was particularly surprised that Ryan granted pardons to some of the inmates based on innocense, a conclusion that Ryan came to after his review convinced him that all four men(who he pardoned) made false murder confessions after being tortured by hicago Police Officers. On another note, US Rep. Bobby Rush(a former Black Panther), plans to introduce a bill requesting that Ryan be nominated for the Congressional Gold Medal. What a joke...first Jesse Jackson's recommendation of the Nobel Peace prize for Ryan and now a former Black Panther putting him up for the highest honor Congress can bestow a citizen. If Ryan actually receives these prestigious awards, it will be ironic watching him accept them from his very own federal prison cell.

My mistake...I meant to say that the panel recommended that fewer than TEN prisoners be granted clemency!