I don't recall seeing this topic discussed. This morning I had an H Upmann MM ISOM and it was quite tasty, not enirely complex but a great morning smoke with some good coffee. Just wanted to see what everyone's favorite MM ISOMs are...

OK I need some education here. I was under the impression that ISOM was the new line from Perdomo. I know that it stands for Island South of Miami but did not know it applied to other brands. Is ISOM also used for any gar from Cuba? Thanks. B

yes, ISOM =Cuban. The perdomo ISOM is crap...

RyJ en cedro #2

Never tried an ISOM. If anyone can send info on where I may be able to acquire some please e-mail

tonester666 at hometel dot com.

Thanks Mean, I have one of those I got from emgjet that I've been meaning to try.

Any other recommendations?

The Jose Piedras line.

Flor de Cano petite corona. Starts a bit harsh, uglier than hell, but a good inexpensive medium bodied mm.

Thanks!!

J. Piedras can be pretty good.

I am a fan of the Romeo y Julieta Milles Fleur. Tasty little smoke.

I think the Rafael Gonzalez Pantella Extras are machine made. Far and away my favorite cheap Cuban. They can be had online for under $50 bucks a box if you look hard.

Agree too on the H. Upmanns. I've smoked a few of those and enjoyed them.

John

John - Thanks and email sent...

Listen to the Pollacks:

Rafael Gonzalez Panatella Extras.

Gotta trust the ski's!! Haven't seen ya for awhile, how've you been?

From a good resource one may acquire handmade Fonseca Delicias for 54.00 a box. The new habano machine bunched line, Guantanamera, 5 7/8 x 41 can be purchased for about $10.00 less.

I offer a word of support for Fonseca Delicias. Yum.

I've smoked the Guantanamera Cristales. Not bad, but not as much flavor as the RG Pantellas Extras, methinks.

John

The Jose Piedras line are hand made. Smoked a machine made Partagas will never hapen again. you now an isom is machine made if it came in cello. I've never seen a hand rolled Cuban in cello. At least that's the way it is in the Great White North.

Sorry Limoric, Jose Piedres is a MM.

I smoked my first Jose Piedras or whatever yesterday, did not know it was machine made, but sort of suspected that it was because of the way it burned. Nice little cigar. Petit Corona, and I would not go out of my way to get another one, though!

Charlie

PS somebody tossed it in during a trade I believe.

Not an ISOM but a great machine-made,the Don Julian,made in Spain by Tabacalera,all Nic.,in a maduro wrapper.Sold in sealed foil individual packs,I'd buy these regularly if sold in the U.S.

Mr.Mean Re: sorry limoric Jose piedra is MM.

This is an e-mail I recieved from The Smokin' Cigar Inc., an approved Habanos SA dealer.

These cigars are what is called "Hand Finished" They ARE NOT machine made.

The process is done by a "Human Hand" bunching the tobacco and then putting the tobacco into a "Bunching" device, like a big roll your own cigarette machine. The lever is pulled, bunches the cigar and the wrapper is put on.

Most cigars not rolled in Cuba are made this way such as Macanudo, Arturo Fuente and others.

Hope this answers your question.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Eric Limoges" [email protected]

To: [email protected]

Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 1:03 PM

Subject: Jose piedra

So if Jose Piedra is MM so are most of the premium non-Cuban smokes. The method illustrated above is the new trend for hand made smokes. Just want to get the facts right.

MM is a loose term for me, I consider any cigar that is not entirely hand made to be a MM. And the other factor for me is whether the cigar is short filler vs long filler. I normally think of SFs as MM cigars...