38. So the Republican's obviously knew better, why not stop it, you owned Congress and presidency, oh I see, because those Democrats, that can't be trusted told you it was fine. Sounds good to me.

Major players- I see, how many trillions of dollars did this major player write of subprime mortgages, how much in Florida, and what % of total failing mortgages do they represent?

Logic will not reign supreme with you liberals. Only emotion. End of posts.

Guess Acorn wasn't as big of a player as you thought.In the big picture. I thought I was being logical.Maybe you need to pay more attention to Rush's talking points.

There are some many things wrong with this picture that I don't know where to start. . .

My stomachs upset - I think I need to throw up. . .

P.S. Instead of calling Bush a monkey (or whatever it was), Pelosi should have done something productive. She had a prime opportunity to really make a difference and leave her mark. Instead, she just chooses to sling mud around and call the Republicans names and blame them for all the problems of the nation. Yet, she has done nothing to fix a single major problem in the U.S. She should be removed immediately and replaced by someone who gives a crap and can do more than provide lip service.

I think it's a laugh riot how maven and drydog have pooped their pants over a very funny photoshop. Take it over to misc. You both "scream" like Biden. Use your inside voice.

McAddict- I have said nothing of the picture, at all, my posts are to the fact that it's gonna be a wild ride, if Hillary or Obama get elected, that's a joke. Did you see unemployment figures today, maybe the Dow Jones, or listen Glenn Beck today about the runs on the shadow banks. It's a pretty wild ride right now. I checked my pants, it wasn't me, check yours.

and maybe we deserve it....Bush certainly killed me in the market.

I am sure he made his retirement fund in the OIL market

For all those who blame Obama for the recession, please check the date above, and remember you were saying nothing was wrong, long after this.

#38...watch it again.

Nothing wrong?

Nothing?

You choose to see nothing.

Dr. I don't see where I said nothing was wrong, but in 41. I answered you.

#49 I dont think ANYONE is blaming Obama for the recession. It was caused by subprime lending. read the thread above. Post #37 or so.

People hate Obama because he is trying to turn the US into a socialistic country.

Obama has been blamed for that, and death panels, trying to kill vets, turning the country socialist etc.etc.etc.

How is he not trying to turn us into socialists? He is trying to get the government to control EVERYTHING. Do you deny that?

Death panels? This wouldn't be a topic if not for his health care plan.

I dont think he is helping the recession one iota, but I dont blame him for the fact that we are in one. I blame prior short-sighted democrats who allowed Freddie and Fannie to get where they were and also those who allowed the credit default swaps back in 2000 (it had been illegal for 100 years).

Obama isn't helping us at all. Even the sheep who elected him are starting to realize it.

Like I said before, we'll see in 6 months, maybe your right, and if so I will admit it, I wonder how many on your side of fence will admit if your wrong.

Oh, TJ, read 36. again.

taken from 35 & 36....lots of food for thought in these two statements.....

35. Author: ghummel Date: 10/02/2008 08:19 AM Reply

If you want to engage in verbal political discourse make sure you have the ammo. There are certainly many areas that share the blame for the current financial mess. That includes our president who is NOT conservative. However. The major blame is sitting with the democratic party who in their desire to make as many people dependent on government (after all, that's how they stay in power)pressured banks to give mortgages to people with no ability to pay it back. When all these mortgages fail, the democrats then wail about the failure of the market and how they will come to the rescue to fix a problem that they created. And we all say yes, yes, help us! How stupid can we be?

36. Author: drywalldog Date: 10/02/2008 08:36 AM Reply

35. I see it a little bit different from you, and most others on here. The problem wasn't so much about subprime mortgages, as it was people living on their

homes as a form of income. Home values go up, they take out more money, living on the edge of a cliff, in rainy season. Work slows down or stops completely for a whole sector of people, and the mortgages they made, they couldn't make anymore. And it's not like they were just a little short, with no work they quickly fall behind. Now the rest of the economy spirals down, even people who have conforming loans are losing their jobs and houses, and retirements. I'm not for the bailouts, but don't know how many here want a quick dose fix that will come if everything fails, cause it would take years to recover from that, if not decades.

Charlie

DWD -

I do agree with 36. There was a lot of that going on. I still believe that the dems allowed way too many people to get into homes that weren't capbable of doing so.

Also, I would still like to see someone actually deny that Obama and the dems are striving for socialism. They took over the insurance, the banks, auto, and their are trying to take healthcare. They have threatened to take the oil industry. Why? The governemnt isn't good at running things and has a terrible track record. Why are they wanting to run everything?

BTW, many of those questions are rhetorical. I know the answers...

TJ- I have but one question for you, if you think Obama truly wants to take over everything. What would have happened if Obama would have been elected instead of the second term of President Bush. And there were no problems like when he took over. The only things he did were in response to what was happening at the time. I believe that 4 more years of leave it alone, it will fix itself wouldn't have happened, I don't think 5 more months of that could have been withstood. If and when that happens again, it will be the end of life as we know it. Things have changed for many in this country already, I don't want it getting much worse.