I didn't say they invented Civil Rights. Actually, the Republicans can probably take credit for inventing it. Emancipation and all that. I was simply pointing out some of the problems Democrats tackled on our watch in response to your question.

Medicare, while on life support, was and is a noble program and another problem Democrats tackled. Needs overhauled but worthy of the effort.

Lastly, could you get a better recruiting poster for Republicans that the Democratic presidental candidates. Makes it hard to keep the faith sometimes. But every so often along comes an FDR or a JFK and we're back in business.

DrMaddVibe

It wasn't the kool aid, it was the beer.

MDdavis

1. The Electoral College is not a technicality. Bush is not the first President to be elected while losing the popular vote. It's the way the system is designed. Otherwise the huge population centers dictate everything. Tyranny of the majority anyone?

2. The Florida Supreme Court has just a little less right to decide a Federal Election than the U. S. Supreme Court.

3. No one ever complained about those stupid old Florida voting machines until a Democrat didn't win.

4. Hasn't this subject been beaten to death yet?

My point was that GWB and the Republicans weren't exactly swept into office by a tidal wave of support which gave them a mandate. In fact, I would argue that they won because we Democrats have been so inept, not because their message or messenger(s) garnered overwhelming support. In other words, there are a little over half of us who didn't vote for GWB some of whom will be critical of him when we disagree with his policies/actions.

On that we can agree.

Nobody I know of said that GW went into office with a mandate.

From the looks of elections AFTER GW's win, I can see how you'd think that.

I've seriously tried to think of one thing GWB has done for me, or any of us 'middle-class' people ... and honestly I can't think of one thing ...

... but I can think of many things that he hasn't done.

Slim, you're kidding right?

If people would worry less about what the fricken government should be "doing for them" and more about what they should do for themselves, this country would be a whole lot better off…

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Yo Slim: You didn't receive an extra tax rebate? You don't feel safer since 911 because of the new agencies that his Presidency created ? Slim I think you have been licking too many dirty ashtrays, LOL . JonR

OR: What someone once said; " Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country ". Does that saying lose its' meaning if said by someone who practiced adultry ? Hmmm ? JonR

Seems kinda strange to me how conservatives still pump themselves up with the "adultery" card. Regardless of how our current president was put into office, resorting to a previous presidents personal buisness is ignorance and played-out. I would think differently, but too many positives occured internationally and in our economic growth to look at what he did in the bedroom.

As for our current presidential situation, GWB makes me feel unsafe, and this has nothing to do with partisanship. His personal interest runs sooooo deep, that how can conservatives not see what has happened to Texas, and what may happen internationally?

I read a lot of what RickMaven writes and I have to agree is pretty far-left wing, but he speaks the obvious truth in many cases and gets no love for being factually and statistically correct. More ignorance I guess. Just my political .02

Dave

Huge population centers = more voters. So what? Isn't it the bottom line that matters? Whoever gets the most votes wins--that's the way it should be, plain and simple. The electoral college, like unions and the two-party system, has outlived its usefulness.

> Otherwise the huge population centers dictate everything. Tyranny of the majority anyone?

JonR --- what tax rebate? Never got one ... I guess you have to have kids to get it.

I'm with Slim on this one. I didn't get a rebate either. As Usual, a single male is taxed to death.

Later

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

Yo smelly4tay: May I call you smelly? How dare you use the name " Rick Maven " and the words " factually " and " statistically correct " in the same sentence, do you not know the meaning of the word " oxymoron ". LOL JonR

Yo Slim / Homebrew: Your right I also didn't receive a rebate, ( JonRs' Things to do list... 1. This weekend impregnate at least two women ). Oh BTW useguys didn't answer my second question, do you feel ( somewhat,the same, alot ) safer since 911 because of the agencies GWB has created ? JonR

If you make and sell widgets, and therefore need customers to buy your widgets. And your customer's got rebates, and subsequently bought more widgets, did you not benefit?

smelly4tay,

You felt safer with the guy that almost got ICBMs launched over Cuba and left the Bay of Pigs fighters to die.

Curious

Hey JonR,

I don't feel any safer, actually less safe.

Later

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

P.S. Anyone seen the Money Markets lately. The Dollar has been taking a hit lately, against foriegn currency.