a two-bagger, eh? ...

How about a good old John Kerry answer.....I take the cello off, no I leave the cello on!

Charlie

RussellKaufmann, you are not a "relatively new collector" and conditions are much more stable in your Verona than they are in his 50 stick desktop humi.

Sometimes there are definitive answers and for a newbie with a humi whose RH will be feast or famine, the answer is Leave It On.

For an old pro like you the answer is Whichever You Prefer.

JMHO

Kazama

What SteveS said.

Celo on, tissue on...

PT 🙂

What Smelly4tay, Slimboli, Osage, Cwfoster, Da-Glyde, SteveS said.

I usually take the cigar out, throw the cigar away, then put the plastic back in the humidor.

all of the above is true, but its up to you, there is no right or wrong but if you take the cello off than smoke the gar,smoke the gar in your car while driving real far. or stay at home and play in the yard with the cards, maybe in the house with a mouse or a louses.

or what eva you's prefer.

Kazama,

I have always removed the cello. While some people might disagree, it just seems right to me. Even before I have my verona, I took off the cello.

It is a fun, but stupid argument. 🙂

Who's arguing???

Knof

Oh, was I typing out loud? 🙂

RK, I agree about fun, but disagree about stupid.

The fun part is I get to talk about a "trivial" matter with you, a guy that I have never met but I feel I kind of know and like, and that matter is important to both of us. If I wanted to have this conversation with my girlfriend hers eyes would roll back in her head. I want to hear the reasons that people store their cigars the way they do. They have probably thought of something that I have not considered. I love this huge conversation between strangers who only share a common love of cigars.

Since I am on my soapbox, why have we developed this groupthink mindset where we squash and discourage our conversations? If some people on the boards have discussed a subject a year ago, does that have to mean that no one else can contribute their opinion on the same subject? If you have nothing new to post on a topic that has been raised before, shouldn't you just skip the thread and leave it to others who may be interested? Is it fair to deny others the right to voice their opinions? You have had your say on past threads, so isn't it only right to let the rest voice theirs now?

Doing a search on a topic is like going to the library, while a current thread is a conversation that one can join.

I know it is not the intent, but this constant jeering and contempt for people who are "beating a dead horse" takes a lot of the fun out of the conversation for the rest of us. Shouldn't we be INCOURAGING discourse rather than trying to shut it down because we have nothing else to say?

Nicely said Kazama.

A guy walks into the lunchroom and sees six boxes of donuts. Mmm, donuts, he thinks and sits down and eats until he's sick.

A second guy walks in. Mmm, donuts.

First guy stands and pisses on all the remaining boxes. "Donuts?", he says, "already had them. You're beating a dead horse."

Kazama,

Excellent post. Thanks!

Personally, I get a kick out of the cello on vs. cello off debate because everyone believes in their side so strongly.

I like my cigars naked. I like for them to get exposed to all of that wonderful humidity and spanish cedar that is provided by my humidor. I love it when I see plume/bloom on my cigars.

For those that keep saying that cigars get plenty of humidity through the cellophane, I keep saying, fill up that cello with water and see how much leaks out other than at the seams and that will tell you just how porous cell is to water.

On the other hand, I certainly understand why so many people leave the cello on, especially those that trade heavily. They want to protect the sticks.

I leave the cello on when smoking at night. It's a much better visual and there's no mistaking which end is the lit end, DOH!

Barry

RK, you are right - anyone who says humidity goes THROUGH cello is wrong, but it cetainly can go around it. The cello slows down the gain and loss of moisture and that is the main reason I told the new guy to leave it on. My first humi had yo-yo RH. First it was too high, then it was too low. Some of the bare sticks cracked but the ones in cello came through like champs because it took longer for them to be affected by the moisture.

The truth of the matter is I believe that both sides are right and 40% or so of my sticks (go-to sticks, for sure personal stock) are bare and the rest have cello (possibly trade/possibly personal). The interesting thing is the only cigars I have with crystals or plume are IN cello.

Go figure.

A few to many humidors, time and unforseen disasters has led me to believe leaving the "Cellos" on, is a good idea. For example I went away on vacation many years back thinking all would be ok with my cigars. A cigar(to be nameless)that I had placed in my prized humidor( Opus X,Don Carlos,Padron Anniv. ,a number of priceless Cubans etc.) decided to give up a little secret (a bug) and then proceeded to effect my selection (300 dollars worth). Of those few that servived I have to thank the cello wrappers.Needless to say I am more cautious today. But even with my caution from time to time a bug manifests itself. However the bug typically does not get past the cello as I catch it when I have my biweekly check.

Cello protects the cigars in many ways and I believe outways the benefits of a "unwrapped cigar" ;especially if you have a large collection,are away often, and do not have the time to check into your collection.

Q

Hi

Kazama makes a good point. I to have a humidor that contains cigars without "cellos". The benefits of maturing a "naked" cigar are compelling. The bug problem is often best combated by keeping the temperature and humidity within Optimum ranges. But once in a while the problem does occur in spite of a man's (or woman's) best efforts. For this and othjer previously posted reasons I recommned the "cello" approach for most cigar lovers and especially larger collections(easy to do at cigarbid).

Q

Hi

Kazama makes a good point. I to have a humidor that contains cigars without "cellos". The benefits of maturing a "naked" cigar are compelling. The bug problem is often best combated by keeping the temperature and humidity within Optimum ranges. But once in a while the problem does occur in spite of a man's (or woman's) best efforts. For this and othjer previously posted reasons I recommned the "cello" approach for most cigar lovers and especially larger collections(easy to do at cigarbid).

Q