CWFoster
22 years ago
You know, it makes me SICK! The Democrats used Dan Quayles Guard service to make it sound like he was a total draft dodger, then they feilded Slick Willie, who signed up for the Guard, and then reneged when he got his Rhodes Scholarship to keep him deferred, and now that Kerry's running military service is important to them again! Is anyone else disgusted by the blatant hypocracy? How about discussing what Bush has done since entering politics, versus what Kerrys done for twenty years in the Senate?

-Active duty, 12 years, 4 times in the Persian Gulf, going back sometime next year, don't CARE about this CRAP!
Jdllizard
22 years ago
sayitfast,
I can't belive people can be so blind as to think the way you think, do us both a favor and vote for Nader.
John L
usahog
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22 years ago
ixlr8 and spititout, what say you now??

http://www.drudgereport.com/cbsd.htm 
CBSNEWS LAUNCHES INTERNAL INVESTIGATION AFTER SUSPICIOUS BUSH DOCS AIRED

**Exclusive**

CBS NEWS executives have launched an internal investigation into whether its premiere news program 60 MINUTES aired fabricated documents relating to Bush's National Guard service, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

"The reputation and integrity of the entire news division is at stake, if we are in error, it will be corrected," a top CBS source explained late Thursday.

The source, who asked not to be named, described CBSNEWS anchor and 60 MINUTES correspondent Dan Rather as being privately "shell-shocked" by the increasing likelihood that the documents in question were fraudulent.

Rather, who anchored the segment presenting new information on the president's military service, will personally correct the record on-air, if need be, the source explained from New York.

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fgruben, thanks for the equal billing.. Yes I do have a bit of time on my hands... I was recently medically retired (forced out) and I have been spending hours here on my home computer getting 26 months worth of paperwork and other crap in order for a court date...

so to break away from the paperwork on occasion I keep CBid site opened up and also catch up on the daily happenings around to world... this of course all takes place after my first cup of coffee and my regulated trip to the crapper... then in the afternoons I break away from this and do a bit of yard work, work in the shop, or run the arends that need to be... at that time I am enjoying something out of my stash

Life is good... or is it??

Hog
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22 years ago
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Vote2004/bush_documents_040909-1.html 
False Documentation?
Questions Arise About Authenticity of Newly Found Memos on Bush’s Guard Service
Sept. 10, 2004 — Questions are being raised about the authenticity of newly discovered documents relating to George W. Bush's service in the National Guard during the Vietnam War.
Marjorie Connell — widow of the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, the reported author of memos suggesting that Bush did not meet the standards for the Texas Air National Guard — questioned whether the documents were real.

"The wording in these documents is very suspect to me," she told ABC News Radio in an exclusive phone interview from her Texas home. She added that she "just can't believe these are his words."

First reported by CBS' 60 Minutes, the memos allegedly were found in Killian's personal files. But his family members say they doubt he ever made such documents, let alone kept them.

Connell said Killian did not type, and though he did take notes, they were usually on scraps of paper. "He was a person who did not take copious notes," she said. "He carried everything in his mind."

Killian's son, Gary Killian, who served in the Guard with his father, also told ABC News Radio that he doubts his father wrote the documents. "It was not the nature of my father to keep private files like this, nor would it have been in his own interest to do so," he said.

"We don't know where the documents come from," he said, adding, "They didn't come from any family member."

Connell said her late husband would be "turning over in his grave to know that a document such as this would be used against a fellow Guardsman," and she is "sick" and "angry" that his name is "being battled back and forth on television."

Her late husband was a fan of the young Bush, said Connell, who remarried after her husband died in 1984. "I know for a fact that this young man … was an excellent aviator, an excellent person to be in the Guard, and he was very happy to have him become a member of the 111th."

Experts Question Veracity

Questions are also being raised about the memos by document experts, who say they appear to have been written on a computer, not a typewriter.
The memos are dated 1972 and 1973, when computers with word-processing software were not available.

More than half a dozen document experts contacted by ABC News said they had doubts about the memos' authenticity.

"These documents do not appear to have been the result of technology that was available in 1972 and 1973," said Bill Flynn, one of country's top authorities on document authentication. "The cumulative evidence that's available … indicates that these documents were produced on a computer, not a typewriter:"

Among the points Flynn and other experts noted:

The memos were written using a proportional typeface, where letters take up variable space according to their size, rather than fixed-pitch typeface used on typewriters, where each letter is allotted the same space. Proportional typefaces are available only on computers or on very high-end typewriters that were unlikely to be used by the National Guard.
The memos include superscript, i.e. the "th" in "187th" appears above the line in a smaller font. Superscript was not available on typewriters.
The memos included "curly" apostrophes rather than straight apostrophes found on typewriters.
The font used in the memos is Times Roman, which was in use for printing but not in typewriters. The Haas Atlas — the bible of fonts — does not list Times Roman as an available font for typewriters.
The vertical spacing used in the memos, measured at 13 points, was not available in typewriters, and only became possible with the advent of computers.
he White House is declining to comment on the veracity of the documents. Many Democrats are worried that if they are found to be forgeries, it will be a setback for Sen. John Kerry's campaign to defeat Bush in November.

Hog
Sylance
22 years ago
Yea... I heard this on the news this morning. If true, this is totally despicable. Talk about some desperate people…
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22 years ago
just shows ya how F%*Kin Smart the Dems are... using a computer to fudge documents dating back to caveman times... we were still using typewriters in 1989-90 at our base... and allot of AF Forms were not available from the computer as late as 1997-98 so they still had to be typed on a typewriter DUH...

Hog
fgruben
22 years ago
usahog
life is good.
so enjoy
fgruben
Sonny_LSU
22 years ago
yea, and ol' GW is the poster child for intellect!

BTW, have we won yet?
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