Them''s good eatin''.

ND is as much of a gun owning state as anywhere, but even here you can not hunt in most towns. In the town that I live in, you can not discharge a firearm in city limits (law is not clear if an air rifle is a firearm or not), and you can not kill any birds (other than pigeons) in city limits.

Of course, the air rifle gets around both of these laws handily, if that is what someone wants to do. Instead of a bang, you have a kind of mechanical sound with a little pop at the end. Most people do not know what it is.

All this talk of air rifles makes me want to do some shooting. I am going to have to get out the pellet trap and let a couple fly.

J

Hey Pecan, think maybe Fidel or the Chokin Ole Red Neck, would know ???? LOL

For varments you want to go with a any .223 Scoped! Perfect rodent piece!

QUOTE:

"Then why would you expect them to be killed by a .177 traveling at a lower velocity and weighing roughly 1/3 to 1/4 that of the .22LR round?"

Because I, unlike you, you Philistine, have faith.

And I choose not to disturb my neighbors, whom I like, but not enough to stop shoveling mastodon poop over the fence into their yard.

Ya know, you ask a lot of questions.

Izzat how you got so smart??

Do you always take everything out of context?

When they''re smelly, I do.

Why do you ask?

Trying to figure out if I should buy you a beer or a white owl pineapple at the next herf...

Pls don''t trouble yerself on my acct.

Duch Masters Palma Cognacs it is then.

I have a Winchester .177 front break made by Daisy. Have a Weaver scope on it. Deadly accurate. I have taken out easliy well over 200 squirrels with it in the last 4 years. If you hit a vital, they will die on the spot. Many taken with head shots. If you don''t hit a vital they run off, however the pellet actually goes comepletely through them. They die somewhere else. These are all 20-40 yard shots. Also have taken out probably a dozen raccoons at 10-30 yards. Usually they die on the spot or very nearby you can find them. Even took one groundhog at about 20 yards with it. Do not discount the power of the .177 at 1000fps. Did not realize how powerful it was until I took out a squirrel sitting on a flower pot and could trace the pellet through the squirrel and then through both sides of the plastic flower pot filled with dirt.

State Laws: Many states consider any up to 400-500 fps as legal in your yard. Once you go over 500fps it is regulated the same as a .22 or any other rifle. I know in PA it is that way. Local laws may be tighter.

Aren''t there any drug dealers in your neighborhood?

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Jonesing again?

I live on a wooded lot. No grass, don''t own a lawnmower.

who says a .22lr has to be noisy . mine is quiter than my pellet guns and way more powerfull to boot. don''t forget if your pellets go much faster than 1100fps you''ll start breaking the sound barrier . I keep my .22''s down to around 1000fps for in town work.

My .22 is a Ruger Mark I or II (who remembers) with 5.5 inch bull bbl.

I bought it the day Reagan was shot.

I don''t believe subsonic (quiest) ammo will blow the bolt back enough to cycle the action.

So, if I don''t want to fire that gun single-shot, then I need to buy a .22 revolver, which I won''t do.

And a rifle in the back yard, next to neighbors with 3 l''il kids is outta the question.

Mommy-kins next door freaked when I floated the idea of archery.

accually if you suppressed your MKII then used CB shorts it will be so quiet thet you''ll think you had a missfire. regular subsonics should cycle it just fine also. the shorts won''t

Keep in mind that the magazine for the Ruger is designed to handle .22LR...are subsonics long rifle or longs?

Obviously, .22 shorts won''t work in that magazine.

They''ll fall out, won''t they??

I don''t think I want to walk around the back yard with a suppressed pistol. That''s probably a no-no in Kali.

didn''t know about the kali thing , yes a big no-no. the subsonics are LR length. shorts must be loaded by hand one at a time.