How in the h-e-l-l do end up crashing two of your boats into each other?

Capt Hazelwood driving one of them?

Wtf?

No windows = poor visibility?

HELLO!!

One of them was a submarine... that was UNDER water.

The USS New Orleans (new ship, btw) is an amphibious transport ship and does not have sonar.

This was clearly the submarine captain's fault. They KNOW the ship is there. The ship had no clue the submarine was there, I can almost guarantee it.

Billions of dollars on technology and training for our armed forces and these douchebags can't stay out of each other's way?

Courtmarshall the Captain. Hang him from the yard arm... the ten yard arm even.

^Yeah. You've never piloted a ship, have you?

I THINK if I was properly trained, had a kazillion dollars in technology, I THINK I'd be able to not run them into each other.

250,000 gallons of fuel in the ocean, 15 injured sailors, and a repar bill for us all to add onto everything else.

The stupidity is maddening.

The Captain should be given a chance to do the honorable thing; like Hitler in his bunker.

definitely a huge SNAFU, by my thinking, there should have been someone coordinating the movement of vessels in the area........perhaps they screwed the pooch.

Bound to happen I guess....from what I understand, subs are navigated exclusively by instrumentation.

I heard the sub ran a stop sign.

JonR

Hey 8-track............next time you are near a saltwater port, head down to the popular boat launch.

Here you will find a hundred "captains" trying simply to put their $60K-250K boats into the water so they can go fishing or boating.

It is like a comedy show........literally hilarious.

It is inconceivable to me that someone who can afford such luxury can avoid running their boats into other boats, docks, etc.

Just remember....even with the sophisticated sonar....they still managed to hit a LOUD Japanese fishing boat.

You gotta turn the sonar switch to the "ON" position.

LMAO at JonR.

Hard to say what when wrong. Miscommunication, misinformation, misunderstanding, untrained personnel, etc. Being a sub driver is not an easy job and very few get the opportunity. Imagine having to drive your car from Seattle to Texas blindfolded. You must rely on those other people in the car to give you directions and tell you what to do. Do you turn in 5', 10', or 20'? Are you where you are supposed to be??? You have to travel thousands and thousands of miles and end up PRECISELY where you are supposed to be without using your sight. Imagine driving through the Rocky Mountains blind. These humans "drive" these submarines blindly every single day of the year and have done so for over 80 years. In that time, there have been few accidents considering the "handicap" they must operate under. Tough job. **** happens.

Unfortunately, these incidents happen from time to time because they are operated by humans and humans are prone to making mistakes.

The sub probably changed lanes without using their turn signal.

8-Track - You should be asking how two surface ships run into each other in broad daylight - it's happened before as well. And, they weren't doing an unrep at the time. It just goes to show you that just about anything can happen (and will).

Anybody here have any idea what a turn radius on a ship is? I am sure MACS and other ex Naval personnel would know, but it is not like driving a car or a bike.

Charlie

He forgot to check his blindspot.

this is a jacked up thread especially given we are at wartime..chit happens

Hey Navy! We love you! Thanks for your service...

^

Please.

Are you suggesting I am anti-Navy?

Are you suggesting I am anti-American?

Are you suggesting this mishap happened because we are at war?

And if you don't think I admire and repsect the sacrifices and service of our armed forces, you are more sadly mistaken than any person on this planet.

8-Track - I would never suggest such a thing! I have no doubt you love your country and support the military.

The turn radius is rather large since there is no friction (wheels on the ground) or true pivot point to turn on. It would take several hundred yards for a amphib ship to turn around. Destroyers, Frigates and Cruisers can turn a shorter radius, but the larger ships need a lot of room to turn.